[Helper System]Just What We Needed, Nothing That We Wanted

[Ultimatecalibur]

As long as there is a warning when you zone in that alerts you to how many chests will drop things should be fine.

The 1 to 4 = -1 chest bit is to prevent one-man static jumping from being viable while still rewarding those that help and those getting their first clear for the week with assistance. 5 to 8 = zero is to prevent carries/carriers from farming gear.

A normal "fresh" 8 man static/party finder pug is still the best way to do if you want to gear up.

There's really no reason to use this system unless you have half the group being veterans (which is typically how you'd do clear stuff for other content anyhow), or if you were trying to get your win at the last minute and needed to get a ringer.

Which is why this system was created the way it was.

[Yukiko]

As long as there is a warning when you zone in that alerts you to how many chests will drop things should be fine.

The 1 to 4 = -1 chest bit is to prevent one-man static jumping from being viable while still rewarding those that help and those getting their first clear for the week with assistance. 5 to 8 = zero is to prevent carries/carriers from farming gear.

A normal "fresh" 8 man static/party finder pug is still the best way to do if you want to gear up.



Which is why this system was created the way it was.

I smell many GM tickets because searching for 1 more player and a "hopping player" joins in. How can you know he finished it this week?
First: as said above - one more does not guarantee a win and it only works on FC hopping to abuse the lootsystem
Secund: there are better ways to aim for hopping abuse if they liked to protect the "weekly loot"

[Ultimatecalibur]

I smell many GM tickets because searching for 1 more player and a "hoping player" joins in. How can you know he finished it this week?
First: as said above - one more does not guarantee a win and it only works on FC hopping to abuse the lootsystem
Secund: there are better waiys to aim for hoping abuse if they liked to protect the "weekly loot"

Which is why there will be a alerts along the lines of "Due to including between 1 and 4 members who have all ready cleared one less chest will be rewarded to upon completion." and "Due to including between 5 and 8 members who have all ready cleared no chests will be rewarded to upon completion." Just as there is an alert for when someone new is attempting a duty.

If you zone in and get an alert that you were not expecting you have reason to quit the duty and kick out the offending party.

[SarcasmMisser]

Haha here it is, despite all the people saying that they don't care about loot they just want to see the story, when SE actually does this here are the people who actually want loot after all. Is it the same people or are people just being dishonest about how badly they want to get carried?

I smell many GM tickets because searching for 1 more player and a "hopping player" joins in. How can you know he finished it this week?

Try reading the patch notes.

Prior to entering the Final Coil of Bahamut, a dialog prompt will indicate both the number of players in your party who have completed the turn, and the number of treasure coffers available upon completion.

[Namasu]

Haha here it is, despite all the people saying that they don't care about loot they just want to see the story, when SE actually does this here are the people who actually want loot after all. Is it the same people or are people just being dishonest about how badly they want to get carried?

And the mask comes off! They just want more loots and don't care that they can play with their friends and fc at all!

[SarcasmMisser]

And the mask comes off! They just want more loots and don't care that they can play with their friends and fc at all!

Well obviously because this system lets them do that so I don't know what the problem is? If you have a problem with this you care more about loot than most complaints let on.

[Yukiko]

I smell many GM tickets because searching for 1 more player and a "hopping player" joins in.

Have a day work in a support center or helpdesk center and you know what i mean, just warned you