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  1. #71
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    Felessan's Avatar
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    Staisy Sama
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sinsain View Post
    Minions are content, they were before the cash shop so why would the suddenly cease to be content after the cash shop launches?
    Fancy items (glamour, minions and mounts) always was treated as content not serious enough to be a part of "no P2W" clause and as such often was put behind paywall, straight from 1.0 release
    Pay extra and get a special reward in form of collector editions, veteran rewards, various bonuses existed way before cash shop was introduced. And it's the same "pay2obtain" as in cashshop, just a bit less direct.
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  2. #72
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    Violyre's Avatar
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    Kiriah Aishi
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Subscriptions are optional content too. You can cancel it in the Mog Station.
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  3. #73
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    Havenchild's Avatar
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    Avalen Koma
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    People complaining are silly.

    Why the hell should a Collector's Edition exist? There is content locked up there in the form of mounts and minions (coeurl/fat chocobo/ behemoth minion) I see no complaints about this. I see no complaints about the fact you can upgrade to these on mogstation. But the first thing we'll complain about is a mount in cash shop, a minion in cash shop.

    Get over yourselves people, you are NOT entitled to every single pixel in the game even if you pay for it monthly even if you feel it should be that way. Do you feel just because you pay monthly you should have every single exclusive item?

    If so please elaborate on what the hell is the point of a collectors edition? or the Moogle bonus from stream? or any other bonuses in time? What company would seriously NOT do this and be competent in a business environment? Even the most successful of MMOs have a cash shop so where exactly is your comparison coming from? This is the new normal for MMOs in general.

    If it truly bothered you, stfu and take your money and gtfo. You don't need a damn answer from SE to tell you what you will get. They said cash shop will be vanity only and that's all I see. A bunch of minions that don't do crap but follow you, a mount that looks like he got a rod shoved up his ass when it moves and some dyes that more then likely look like eye cancer on cloth armor.

    Like someone posted before, if it was based on GIL? TOO MUCH MONEY,
    if it was cheap gil/ None , NOT EXCLUSIVE
    Cost IRL Money? CASH GRAB

    Im a collector of minions and mounts and will get all I can when possible eventually (only upgraded to collectors edition to get the ones from that) and even so, I don't give a crap about spending money if I want it.
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    Last edited by Havenchild; 12-09-2014 at 06:26 PM.

  4. #74
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    Roris's Avatar
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    Rori Uguu
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    Sargatanas
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    Weaver Lv 80
    Subs are dipping, there's no doubt about it, especially since they haven't released official sub figures aside from the 500k active accounts back in ARR's first months and the infamous marketing of "2.5 million adventurers" which are just registered accounts. Remember all the "if you don't like it, leave" comments being thrown around since launch? Well they worked, thus the emergency "let's save our generic WoW clone" option is being phased in.
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  5. #75
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    TheGrimace's Avatar
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    Knives Jonquil
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    Excalibur
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    Rogue Lv 100
    Why did you forsake me Anakin???? You killed younglings and put y'shtola minions behind a paywall! the council will not stand for this! shame on you.

    whaaaaaaat
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  6. #76
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    Mighty Miggles
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    Tonberry
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    Fisher Lv 50
    I wish they put Windup Nanamo on the cash shop. But then they went ahead and listend to those poor sons of felines and put it on subscription reward. I am mighty pissed.
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  7. #77
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    LunaHoshino's Avatar
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    Luna Hoshino
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Like someone posted before, if it was based on GIL? TOO MUCH MONEY,
    if it was cheap gil/ None , NOT EXCLUSIVE
    Cost IRL Money? CASH GRAB
    Got it in one. Remember all of the complaining about the incredibly low drop rate on the EX Primal mounts and how SE upped the drop rate because of it? Now there's a pony that people can choose to buy in the cash shop instead of spending hours farming the EX Primals and people are complaining and saying it should be a drop too. When they gave us all the free metallic gold dye because of the bug, people complained that it wasn't special or rare anymore. Personal housing is purchasable exclusively with gil, people complain that it's too expensive.

    People will complain about everything.
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  8. #78
    Player FateAudax's Avatar
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    Empyreal Fate
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
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    In your context, everything will be deemed not optional. Then why do you even want to start a discussion?
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  9. #79
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    Evenstar Wanderlust
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    Phoenix
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    I am in favor of the cash shop, adding more minions is ok, I can live with that.

    Adding the dyes leaving a bad taste in my mouth ....
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  10. #80
    Player FateAudax's Avatar
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    Empyreal Fate
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    People complaining are silly.

    Why the hell should a Collector's Edition exist? There is content locked up there in the form of mounts and minions (coeurl/fat chocobo/ behemoth minion) I see no complaints about this. I see no complaints about the fact you can upgrade to these on mogstation. But the first thing we'll complain about is a mount in cash shop, a minion in cash shop. snip-
    If this was Reddit, I would've given him all my Reddit gold.
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