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    The MAJORITY of the player base plays the game to progress through the story and dungeons. A small minority is heavily into crafting and to an even smaller degree is the vanity crowd. SE will always cater to the majority as that is where the profit lies.

    No one is forcing people to buy these items. People buy these items because they have the money to buy them and they want them. Quite honestly SE could expand the cash shop to include X amount of gil and items and I would be fine with that to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuolema View Post
    The MAJORITY
    Again, your only argument is that we shouldn't care because other people don't.

    "Why do you care that all those innocent people died? The majority doesn't care, it doesn't effect them, or their lives."

    I know that this is taking it to an extreme, but it's the same type of principal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    Again, your only argument is that we shouldn't care because other people don't.

    "Why do you care that all those innocent people died? The majority doesn't care, it doesn't effect them, or their lives."

    I know that this is taking it to an extreme, but it's the same type of principal.
    Are you comparing digital minions and mounts to the death of innocent people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    Are you comparing digital minions and mounts to the death of innocent people?
    Are you illiterate? Did you not read what I said right below it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    Are you illiterate? Did you not read what I said right below it?
    I did read below it, it doesn't make your statement any less offensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    I did read below it, it doesn't make your statement any less offensive.
    Offensive? Literally how? It's not like I singled out some actual tragic incident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    Again, your only argument is that we shouldn't care because other people don't.

    "Why do you care that all those innocent people died? The majority doesn't care, it doesn't effect them, or their lives."

    I know that this is taking it to an extreme, but it's the same type of principal.

    and we have reached godwins law everyone.

    The cash shop is not the holocaust. they are not the same thing.

    is it annoying and would I like to to go away? yes
    Is the world as we know it ending? no
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    You are right I don't care about anyone else's enjoyment from this game. I play this game to relax from work and family obligations. If you are so offended by this revelation of my lack of caring for your plight then get over yourself. You are complaining about a game, if you can't see how silly that is then there is something wrong. You have free will to buy or not buy from the cash shop. You have the free will to pay or not pay for a subscription to FFXIV. Make a choice that you can live with and stop acting like a martyr because the MAJORITY of people really don't care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OranKells View Post
    is it annoying and would I like to to go away? yes
    Is the world as we know it ending? no
    I never said the world was ending. I explicitly stated that even I acknowledge that the example I used was extreme.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_Angeles View Post
    Are you intentionally thick? I said if it became play to win, there's always the option to say "No, I'm not okay with this" and stop playing. If you feel like its unfair, than why would you play?

    And yes, I put it in terms of "I" so let me translate because I understand reading comprehension is hard.
    I hope you realize that by shifting the focus away from specifically yourself, and redirecting it to me, in no way contradicts my original factual statement that you are only thinking of yourself.

    Changing it from being in reference to you, and just pointing the finger at me is again showing that you're only thinking of how it effects you, and how you feel about it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kuolema View Post
    You are right I don't care about anyone else's enjoyment from this game. I play this game to relax from work and family obligations. If you are so offended by this revelation of my lack of caring for your plight then get over yourself. You are complaining about a game, if you can't see how silly that is then there is something wrong. You have free will to buy or not buy from the cash shop. You have the free will to pay or not pay for a subscription to FFXIV. Make a choice that you can live with and stop acting like a martyr because the MAJORITY of people really don't care.
    Thank you for only further reinforcing my argument.

    And no, it's not just a game in this scenario. It's about a product we've invested ourselves in, and we're not being given everything we paid for.
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    Last edited by Amused; 12-11-2014 at 03:15 AM.