I want an official response.

[Khemorex]

I just wonder all of you cash shop defenders, if it dosnt affect you why do you post in this thread anyway? You all dont care anyway about it? so why do you defend it so much?

I totally can understand Amused , because i feel the same.
Ive played EQ2 until they introduced a cash shop there, and now the game is F2P.
It would be a shame if FFXIV goes the same road.

I would like a comment about it too.
I want to know if SE is making enough money with our subs to fund the game and possibly other proejcts.
If so , then the cash shop is just here to milk us even more^^

Whats so hard about it SE? just tells us what the extra money u want to earn is used for?

[Roris]

Whats so hard about it SE? just tells us what the extra money u want to earn is used for?

I just wish they were open about their subscriber numbers and stopped dancing around giving clear figures by using "adventurers", which is their codeword for accounts created. You know, just say how many active subs the game has like practically most MMOs do, especially WoW. Blizzard always publishes their figures regardless if they're down or up and theirs always fluctuate in the millions.

I'm surprised some people still believe the game isn't heading towards F2P after all these blatant signs. Sure if some people want to believe the game can pull a WoW and have both a sub and a cash shop, go ahead, but it's never actually happened in the history of the themepark MMO market aside from WoW, and another WoW clone like ARR certainly won't be the exception.

[Velhart]

I'm surprised some people still believe the game isn't heading towards F2P after all these blatant signs. Sure if some people want to believe the game can pull a WoW and have both a sub and a cash shop, go ahead, but it's never actually happened in the history of the themepark MMO market aside from WoW, and another WoW clone like ARR certainly won't be the exception.

This just in, any MMO that doesn't have WoW numbers is doomed to be F2P.

I just wonder all of you cash shop defenders, if it dosnt affect you why do you post in this thread anyway? You all dont care anyway about it? so why do you defend it so much?

It isn't exactly I like cash shops, I have a mind set of getting stuff in game and not my wallet. Its more of an argument that it will have no impact on how the game is in the long run like people in here think it will. If the cash shop stays or goes, it matters not to me. Its just more entertaining watch people going on thinking it is the end of the world because it is here.

[Roris]

This just in, any MMO that doesn't have WoW numbers is doomed to be F2P

Name 5 themepark MMOs in the past decade that haven't gone F2P or aren't failing (Wildstar), go ahead. ARR not included of course.

[Velhart]

Name 5 themepark MMOs in the past decade that haven't gone F2P or aren't failing (Wildstar), go ahead. ARR not included of course.

Name 5 that are not WoW and FFXI/FFXIV that don't depend on investors to keep their game running. Do you even know why these MMO's even go F2P? Low player count is only half the reason.

[TakKuroda]

Name 5 themepark MMOs in the past decade that haven't gone F2P or aren't failing (Wildstar), go ahead. ARR not included of course.

There is a list of 10(includes WoW). http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploa..._mmo_table.jpg

Now these are listed as a subscription based MMO even though they have ways to play for free with certain limitations.

[Ilitsa]

I just wonder all of you cash shop defenders, if it dosnt affect you why do you post in this thread anyway? You all dont care anyway about it? so why do you defend it so much?

For me, it's not so much that I defend or support the cash shop, but that I'm just absolutely fucking fed up to the ears of EVERY thread, even ones that have NOTHING to do with the cash shop are getting turned into a cash shop argument by the anti-cash shop people. It's absolutely ridiculous and I oppose that sort of bullying mentality on principle.

[Kuolema]

I just wonder all of you cash shop defenders, if it dosnt affect you why do you post in this thread anyway? You all dont care anyway about it? so why do you defend it so much?

I totally can understand Amused , because i feel the same.
Ive played EQ2 until they introduced a cash shop there, and now the game is F2P.
It would be a shame if FFXIV goes the same road.

I would like a comment about it too.
I want to know if SE is making enough money with our subs to fund the game and possibly other proejcts.
If so , then the cash shop is just here to milk us even more^^

Whats so hard about it SE? just tells us what the extra money u want to earn is used for?

I find it funny that people seem to think that SE is going to comment on this issue. SE will never come out and give you an answer. It's highly unlikely that SE will ever say where any money we give them goes to.

The whole anti cash shop group reminds me of a small group of people protesting against something and trying to force their beliefs on others.

[Sholah]

I still don't understand how people are this delusional. YOU ALREADY PAID FOR THAT CASH SHOP CONTENT. WE ALL DID. THAT'S WHAT OUR SUB DOES. IT PAYS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF CONTENT. How the hell can people not just be okay with this, but support it?

[OranKells]

Honestly? Its a slow day. I'm off work, I have some finals projects to complete for school, I'm just waiting for code to compile but I can't be playing video games. Thats too distracting.

this sort of futile meaningless debate with no actual consequences because no one here actually has power to effect the thing we are talking about is kinda fun, it also keeps be sharp for when I have to deal with disgruntled customers or my 10 year old nieces and nephews that I babysit.