I want an official response.

[Vondoomervil]

I would rather have a response so I can decide whether I want to keep playing this game, or if I want to leave it.

Leaving us in the dark about this, especially springing the Eternal Bond bit on us at the last minute, is absolutely disrespectful.

Oh cmon, grow up. Its a damn video game, stop playing and go deal with some real problems. Christ this is just getting ridiculous.

[Felessan]

Says a lot that the first major patch since the addition of the cash shop is about 2/3rds cash shop related

I like the exaggeration. Not mentioning a relic, eternal bond itself are several times bigger than all cash shop items. What do we have in cash shop? 2 dyes, some extra cutscenes, copy-pasted set of clothes (extra set looks exactly the same as usual one, just dyes differently), copy-pasted from "invite a friend" choco and one minion? It's a very pale in comparison to the scope of whole ceremony (and there are even quest before it).

It's supposed to entitle you to all the content the game has to offer

And paying 10$ at shop entitles you to everything in that shop /sarcasm

SE keeps locking out stuff that could and should be included in the subscription fee

This is a baseless assumption and wishful thinking. You just assume that this content are free or was already included into the scope of development.

To get this all started SE had to take normal sub money and pay a dev to make some cash shop items to begin with.

You don't understand how it works. Where money came from is not important, most probably than not it was funded separately and put on the separate budget at least initially. Furthermore it most probable that it is cash shop that sponsoring main development and not main development sponsor cash shop as cash shop has significantly higher margin and it usually easier to get bigger budget (even for main project) if you have bigger revenue stream.

with 2.000.000 subs per month (even with only legacy player at 9.99 euro) they get 19.980.000 euro (more of 24.700.000 USD) and it's only with the lowest subs actual, most people are not at this one and with the retainer subs it far more. do you really believe they use 24.7M USD per month in the game? really?

You should remember that ARR essentially sucked all SE money into rebuilding itself, many project went into frozen state (versus, anyone) or even was dumped. ARR cost a lot of money to be remade and people DO want to return their investment, so a lot from this number goes to recuperate R&D cost that was spent years ago.

[Taliph]

You should remember that ARR essentially sucked all SE money into rebuilding itself, many project went into frozen state (versus, anyone) or even was dumped. ARR cost a lot of money to be remade and people DO want to return their investment, so a lot from this number goes to recuperate R&D cost that was spent years ago.

I love how you imply here that the players should shoulder tanaka's failure.

[Kerwin]

Subscription is only for access to their game server to play their game. Read the ToS, stop the "subscription = entitlement" mentality.

Let's forget I wrote anything about the subscription then and concentrate on my point "Oh reader of the terms of service extrodinar."

The fact that they are limited only to the cash shop is what infuriates people.

I myself don't mind these things and I am not taking sides. So this isn't a biased statement, but simply my observed opinion. Although I clearly said "fact." lol

[ShanaShirayuki]

Same. It makes me really wonder how old these people are. MMOs weren't like this when I was growing up. Back then it was even questionable that a game be P2P.

So the OP voices concerns about the cash shop and attacks others whose opinions differ from his/hers by questioning their age. You just shot the point you're trying to make in the foot by making comments like this.

[Amused]

So the OP voices concerns about the cash shop and attacks others whose opinions differ from his/hers by questioning their age. You just shot the point you're trying to make in the foot by making comments like this.

I didn't attack anyone. I simply questioned how old they are, because I'm genuinely curious.

I guess all the people actually legitimately attacking me, and anyone else who disagrees with the cash shop are totally OK though.

[Gralna]

I didn't attack anyone. I simply questioned how old they are, because I'm genuinely curious.

[Roris]

Oh cmon, grow up. It's a game company that doesn't need more money than it already has, stop supporting their bad consumer practices and go play real videogames. Christ this is just getting ridiculous.

[Amused]

I've already cancelled my subscription and un-installed the game. You want us to leave? OK, that's fine. Just remember this when your servers are being merged, and you can't find people to group with because they've moved on to another game that doesn't treat it's players/fans as expendable.

[Gralna]

I've already cancelled my subscription and un-installed the game. You want us to leave? OK, that's fine. Just remember this when your servers are being merged, and you can't find people to group with because they've moved on to another game that doesn't treat it's players/fans as expendable.