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    Player
    Synestra's Avatar
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    Nel Synestra
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    Moogle
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by KuraiKiserogeru View Post
    Relic: Question is, will it shine!
    This stage will propably lose it just like Atma and final one will bring it back, i mean this cannot be final stage yet as it ended just being ilvl125. Tbh its kinda wierd that it already didnt match with augmentet IW weapons, maybe it gets "hotfix" when tomes/upgrade items will start to drop from CT3 as othervise it would huge middlefinger for all relic grinders, and final stage will mostlikely make it on par with Dreadwyrms just before expansion.
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    Tsukotaku's Avatar
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    Mako Mako
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Squintina View Post
    Ecc...
    Not really. For what it concerns crafting the lower cost of the materials on the broker is already a nerf. Regarding Coil/Primals is basically the same, the basic progression of the gear (Allagan Tomestones) is a nerf of all the previous fights. "Hard content" has to be a challenge, a challenge has to be an obstacle to overcome. Players trying to do Coil and the Trials EX should enjoy themself by breaking these walls, like with sports. If you keep lowering the difficulty of the game, making radical modifications, you will definitely get troubles later on... those "New Players" will never be at the same level of the rest because of their previous experience. All of this will also harm the player base in the endgame. You don't know how many times I saw farm parties in T7 being able to kill Melusine, after the 2.4 patch, just thanks to the nerfs Square Enix applied.

    Edit: Can't include the quote to your post because of the maximum characters limit on the forum.
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    Last edited by Tsukotaku; 12-09-2014 at 04:49 PM.

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    Squintina's Avatar
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    Squintina Nightgard
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukotaku View Post
    Not really.
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    All of this will also harm the player base in the endgame. You don't know how many times I saw farm parties in T7 being able to kill Melusine, after the 2.4 patch, just thanks to the nerfs Square Enix applied.
    That just means they didn't nerf T7 at the right pace. Imagine if all T's were as hard as they always were. Thanks to older players wanting to move on to newer content, newer players still trying to clear older content would end up hopelessly trying to catch up. The same applies to crafting. It has to have its progression nerfed too - it just means they shouldn't nerf it again for a while. This one is enough for now.
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    KaedrianLiang's Avatar
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    Kaedrian Kaeng
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    Tonberry
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukotaku View Post
    Which is ridicolous for those like me who spent a lot of time and gils to gear up their crafting jobs. So, why don't we put Mastercraft Demimateria and High Allagan gear directly available at a NPC vendor for a bunch of gils next?

    This is beyond stupidity.
    Don't worry early adopters have made their millions upon millions of gil which make up for any gil spent. Time spent is a different story.

    While late adopters will no doubt be able to craft what they want and get the demimateria they need, they will never make the millions upon millions early adopters have already made.

    As for players that got their grind done in the last week. There is nothing i can say that will mitigate your frustration.

    On an additional note all higher tier mats will see a slight increase in price as demand by able crafters will multiply in the coming weeks. So prices may stay the same if not increase, depends how out of control the undercutting will go.
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    Ferocious's Avatar
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    Fierce Agent
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 68
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukotaku View Post
    Which is ridicolous for those like me who spent a lot of time and gils to gear up their crafting jobs. So, why don't we put Mastercraft Demimateria and High Allagan gear directly available at a NPC vendor for a bunch of gils next?
    Battle jobs do get screwed as much as crafters who were early adopters, even worse. It's much easier for people to catch up to i110+ gear than a new crafter to catch up to 3 star. Crafting is still very gil and time consuming to catch up with. Then most of the stuff is already not very profitable unless you're making the latest and greatest.
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    Altijacek's Avatar
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    Phil Collins
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    Midgardsormr
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    Marauder Lv 60
    These patch notes just make me sad wah...

    Well I'm excited about buffs and new relics but I really have to work on my relic
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    Player Houston009's Avatar
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    Straigus Rheyist
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    Jenova
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    Pugilist Lv 81
    Look at the new Relic(zodiac?) weapon names.
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    Cyrus-Wallace's Avatar
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    Lucille Wallace
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Wow, the requirements for the crafting stuff dropped like... to the ground. I like it.
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    Tocsin Wolndara
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace View Post
    Wow, the requirements for the crafting stuff dropped like... to the ground. I like it.
    Yep, looks like BSM is the new GSM for desynth...
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    Kik Inperi
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    lol @ the "Schatzsuche" section
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