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    Thistledown's Avatar
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    Mighty Miggles
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    Fisher Lv 50

    How to make tanking more rewarding?

    Tank is the least preferred role to play in the game. It is apparent from all those \\'in demand\\' messages on the roulettes.

    I gave it a thought and after playing WAR for a while I think I figured out why.

    Tanking isn\\'t as enjoyable as dps because it produces small numbers.

    We deal and take less damage. Sure the whole point of tanking is to take less damage but the point is, we don\\'t know how much

    Here is my suggestion: show \\'% damage mitigated\\' on flying displays like Parry currently does. So if I had Inner Beast active, a mountain buster would say \\'1610 (20% mitigated)\\', as opposed to just \\'1610\\'.

    What do you think? What other non-encounter-specific improvement would you make?


    TL;DR- show % damage mitigated by cooldowns on tank\\'s damage taken, just like Parry.
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    Q'riah Deus
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    Well, I never noticed my (or other) Warrior(s) showing "small numbers". At least for a tank

    I honestly don't think its because one doesn't see the effects. The effects are obvious, people aren't dying, at least from the factors in your control. People don't like to tank because of the other members in their party and their attitude, the stress put on the tank since all eyes are on you (and the healer). I'm sure there are those that just want to deal damage, but I don't think showing how much damage mitigated is going to make someone jump up and start tanking, it would be nice for existing tanks though.

    I honestly feel that "nothing" is really wrong with tanking, but with the players the tank needs to party with.
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    Gives higher reward for adventurer in need bonus, up to ridiculous amount of 30k in proportion to how in demand the tanks are. This way you can make it more appealing without inflating the economy 'too much'.

    That, or make it more flashy.

    Edit : And of course, regarding undesirable attitudes from other player, it would be beneficial to all the newbie tanks out there to develop 'thicker skin' regarding criticism and/or insult. Remember that you're important part of the group, keep in mind that other players ARE expendable (maybe not the healer). This doesn't meant you can or should act like pompous ass, however. And when people offer advice, be sure to take it to heart.
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    Last edited by mosaicex; 12-08-2014 at 12:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosaicex View Post
    Gives higher reward for adventurer in need bonus, up to ridiculous amount of 30k in proportion to how in demand the tanks are. This way you can make it more appealing without inflating the economy 'too much'.

    That, or make it more flashy.
    That sounds awesome. If I was getting a 30k gil adventurer in need bonus for every dungeon run, I would keep tanking (or whatever is in need) all the time, since I am always short on gil and would rather fight for it than play the market game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    That sounds awesome. If I was getting a 30k gil adventurer in need bonus for every dungeon run, I would keep tanking (or whatever is in need) all the time, since I am always short on gil and would rather fight for it than play the market game.
    This x1000. Cannot like enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosaicex View Post
    And of course, regarding undesirable attitudes from other player, it would be beneficial to all the newbie tanks out there to develop 'thicker skin' regarding criticism and/or insult. Remember that you're important part of the group, keep in mind that other players ARE expendable (maybe not the healer). This doesn't meant you can or should act like pompous ass, however. And when people offer advice, be sure to take it to heart.
    same should be said about lazy good for nothing dps, i play all roles, and mnk is by far my favorite and drg close behind that. i tried to give a dps advice when i was in a dungeon on his drg, and after the next fight, vote kick initiated. luckily, immediately after that dps was vote kicked instead, but point is, cant expect tanks to follow this idea if dps dont do it either
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    Quote Originally Posted by warren-ragnarok View Post
    same should be said about lazy good for nothing dps, i play all roles, and mnk is by far my favorite and drg close behind that. i tried to give a dps advice when i was in a dungeon on his drg, and after the next fight, vote kick initiated. luckily, immediately after that dps was vote kicked instead, but point is, cant expect tanks to follow this idea if dps dont do it either
    Yes, the same could be said for every bad players, but like I said earlier, DPS players are expendable. Tanks (and to certain extent, healers) are not, most of the time anyway. If bad DPS players are giving you too much trouble you can just votekick them and get another one replaced in like 1 minute max.
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    Tessa Jalloh
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    i loved tanking, the reason i stopped is quite simple. People are absolute assholes. The daily insults for simple things were Rediculous. Either you're going too fast or not fast enough, people ignore direction and then yell and bitch that you were unable to keep the hate on that one mob you'd told people not to attack until last. The majority of the time i questioned why i bothered. People often would ask for my help, but when it came to me needing someone to return the favour i'd often get noncomittal responses from those same people.

    Tanks are under appreciated and taken advantage of. That's why they're in high demand, because people get sick of it.

    At least as a Ninja the expectation is low, and i get the appreciation of tanks because i get their plight and don't play for just myself.
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    Ampheni Loha
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    As a person who is still playing as a tank for end game contents, I feel you. And I completely understand why you quit tanking.
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