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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    This is very true and very demoralizing at the same time. Why is it that people are looking more to exclude people than include them? Why can't it be a team of equals, instead of "elite vs casual"?
    What about that statement says anything about excluding people or elitism? He's saying it's worth your time to invest in players with slightly lower item levels and help them gear up for the content as it can be easier than trying to convince players with equal item levels (who may already have networks and/or groups of their own) to join you. What exactly is demoralizing about this sentiment? Seriously, that's such a negative way to view it. ._.

    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    And reddit is suppoed be better in what way? It is just more forums of gibberish. Is this not the primary FFXIV forums? Shouldn't straight forward stuff like finding a static happen here on these forums?
    The reddit community is probably a lot more active than the official forum community because reddit isn't just about FFXIV. People are on reddit already for other things, and happen to include FFXIV in the groups that they post in.
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 12-09-2014 at 03:19 PM.

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    If you're on T5, buy your way up to T10 (or whatever your server's pug progression curve sits at) or find an FC that is actually willing to help you.

    Strut your stuff there in PF. Post ads on your local server forums, reddit, et al and in your server's PF when you have downtime.

    It's a sad truth, but few statics on heavily populated servers are going to care how 'good' you are, they don't want to retrain a player in fights they've already done, so saying you have experience in current content matters more than anything. A Dragoon with some Dreadwyrm pieces that doesn't even stick Chaos Thrust is going to look more appealing than you at first glance if you can't say you've been to whatever content the majority of your server is on.
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    Last edited by Krr; 12-09-2014 at 03:30 PM.
    video games are bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    And reddit is suppoed be better in what way? It is just more forums of gibberish. Is this not the primary FFXIV forums? Shouldn't straight forward stuff like finding a static happen here on these forums? Redirecting people is just more smoke and mirrors and the OP of that thread has been radio silent since so who knows what came of it.
    There are a number of reasons why there are fan communities that operate away from official forums. Would you like me to spell out to you why that is?

    And as for what became of the OP?
    http://www.twitch.tv/vygun/c/5632815

    Seems pretty successful to me.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post
    There are a number of reasons why there are fan communities that operate away from official forums. Would you like me to spell out to you why that is?
    Actually you should spell it out. I don't know why people would want those forums to be better than this one.

    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post
    ..Seems pretty successful to me.
    And the OP from that thread probably didn't need these forums in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    I am not being pessimistic, the evidence in these threads speak for themselves. More effort is put in to tell me to be quiet than actual help for the OP. I'll be the very first to admit that I've come across helpful raiders, because I wouldn't be making progress without their help, but for every 1 helpful raiders there are too many people that don't care about anyone else, and you see them in the those dozen or so PF that say "farm, no newbies wanted", "must have multiple clears", etc. etc.
    Lame~~ of course it does, because you give more effort to put comments when the OP is gone somewhere nobody even know where to or how, thus making his lack of effort trying to find a static.. But then again, i take it that he mostly only asks people on how to find one..
    What you said isnt completely rubbish, but the way you're bringing em out in the middle of optimistic people are being pessimistic..
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Actually you should spell it out.
    -Official forums may have moderation rules/policies that some players find disagreeable.
    -Accessibility can be better on unofficial community sites. The official forums aren't super pleasant to use on a mobile device, for example.
    -There is also no live chat client interface on the official forums, whereas unofficial sites may have their own VoIP servers or IRC chat.
    -Sites like Reddit have features that the official forums do not. The live Nexus light bonus thread is one example.

    Those are reasons just off the top of my head.

    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    And the OP from that thread probably didn't need these forums in the first place.
    He got info about where he could better find what he was looking for. I think his thread on these forums helped him out in that respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    And reddit is suppoed be better in what way? It is just more forums of gibberish. Is this not the primary FFXIV forums? Shouldn't straight forward stuff like finding a static happen here on these forums? Redirecting people is just more smoke and mirrors and the OP of that thread has been radio silent since so who knows what came of it.
    Even if its a forum of gibberish, when more community actually uses it, it attracts more people than any other places.. When you are jobless, you just shouldnt try to find a job from one place and waiting the end of the world..
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post
    -Official forums may have moderation rules/policies that some players find disagreeable.
    -Accessibility can be better on unofficial community sites. The official forums aren't super pleasant to use on a mobile device, for example.
    -There is also no live chat client interface on the official forums, whereas unofficial sites may have their own VoIP servers or IRC chat.
    -Sites like Reddit have features that the official forums do not. The live Nexus light bonus thread is one example.

    Those are reasons just off the top of my head.
    Don't forget the lovely 1000 character limit and daily post limit. -.-
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  10. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Actually you should spell it out. I don't know why people would want those forums to be better than this one.



    And the OP from that thread probably didn't need these forums in the first place.
    ..and now you jjust flat out ignore that he was DIRECTED to better ways to get in a group. you really love cherry picking and making everything look better for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Nobody wants to be bossed around by some so called leader. And you can't have all chiefs either. Dedication and determination from one bossy person never works out, usually they earn a bad reputation as a dictator.
    Proves my point further, no leadership qualities. Bossing someone around and leading a team aren't the same. You don't have to have "all chiefs" but dedication.
    This is the "It's not my fault, it's everyone else's fault I don't have a static" attitude.

    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Garuda EX is like the same frustration. They can forget about doing Shiva EX now to try to meet with people. But what you do see is clear selling of T5+ and EX primals on the PF almost all the time.
    So...just sit around for days, weeks, maybe months for someone else to set up a static?

    For anyone else coming here for advice, this is a shining example of what not to be.
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