Do Paladins want Cure?

[Steady]

I'm a Warrior who also has a Paladin. While I love Stoneskin, and I recall playing Paladin in FFXI, I find myself wondering.. do Paladins really want cure?

And I don't mean cure necessarily as it is now, but cure in regards to one that would make a significant gain to want to use the ability.

In FFXI, Curing was as much a part of aggro management as Flash is, but today it's kinda an after thought that helps in lowbie dungeons. In truth, I'm not even sure giving Paladins Cure II would be a significant enough healing increase to warrant use, unless they start scaling it off of another stat. In FFXI it scaled off MND for casting and VIT for receiving, if i recall right.

So, do you want cures? As it stands, getting off a stoneskin is usually reserved for off tanking and between boss animations.. so I'm not sure you wouldn't be interupted anyhow.

[SpookyGhost]

I think Stoneskin fits better as a magical ability for Paladins in this game than Cure. I'd actually like it if PLD were able to cross class mitigation tools (E4E, Virus, etc.) but they're currently limited to CNJ and MRD, only one of which has spells and that one doesn't have native mitigation spells outside of SS. I think PLD would get more out of Arcanist but obviously that wouldn't fit thematically. Maybe PLD will get more native spells in the expansion that allow them to aid their party (like how Stoneskin does now).

[mdha02]

I think Stoneskin fits better as a magical ability for Paladins in this game than Cure. I'd actually like it if PLD were able to cross class mitigation tools (E4E, Virus, etc.) but they're currently limited to CNJ and MRD, only one of which has spells and that one doesn't have native mitigation spells outside of SS. I think PLD would get more out of Arcanist but obviously that wouldn't fit thematically. Maybe PLD will get more native spells in the expansion that allow them to aid their party (like how Stoneskin does now).

E4E cannot be cast on yourself.

[SpookyGhost]

E4E cannot be cast on yourself.

Didn't say it could. SS can't only be casted on yourself, either. E4E off tank, E4E a DPS who's going to be taking damage, etc. Tanks typically help their party members in other games, this one we just kind of stand there and mitigate damage. Would like to see both PLD and WAR get more tools to aid their party.

[TouchandFeel]

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PLD's Cover is one of my favorite tank abilities in the game and I too would like them to do more with that ability and have more team-centric interesting tank abilities like that.

[GeekMatt]

More utility skills for protecting/supporting the party is what I'm desperately hoping for for PLD, something like Cover but with more practical usage. As for curing, there's definitely times I wish I could cast a practical heal, but I'd more enjoy the ability to prevent damage.

[PWilson]

Cure is simply not effective as a PLD. I still have it as a cross-class skill, but I never use it because a 150 heal when I have 7k+ hp is a waste of time.

[Steady]

Cure is simply not effective as a PLD. I still have it as a cross-class skill, but I never use it because a 150 heal when I have 7k+ hp is a waste of time.

My initial post already stated that fact. My question was... if curing yourself was viable.. would you want it? If Curing yourself did, say as much as a stoneskin (10%), would that be a utility you'd enjoy using, or would it just be a redundancy you wouldn't use?

Arguably due to interruption in cast times, Stoneskin is a little more viable, as you can only cast while not being attacked, and your likely topped off when not being attacked.

[PWilson]

My question was... if curing yourself was viable.. would you want it? If Curing yourself did, say as much as a stoneskin (10%), would that be a utility you'd enjoy using, or would it just be a redundancy you wouldn't use?

Oh.

Hell yes. Especially for 8-man content, having a good heal spell would be awesome.
It wouldn't exactly be fair, though. I mean, Scholars are the only ones who can do every role, let's not take that away from them.

[SethRexxus]

Exactly! I tried powering up my mind attribute to overcome this but cure maxes out at a very small threshold of recovery. If you could cure yourself of half your hp in one cast, even if it took more mp, that would make the difference. Or, if they let paladins use raise during battle that would really be beneficial. Maybe they think allowing that would make paladins too powerful?