Thread: Bring back 1.0 Notorious Monsters please.

Originally Posted by Velhart

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What we're requesting is not for NMs to have monetary value, at least thats not my goal... Also, I proposed the "Free Roaming" NMs be mid to low level content that you can solo (or duo with Chocobos), that offers pink/green newbie equipment to help players level in those ranges, and give them a goal (Especially DD) while waiting for a dungeon queue to pop. There is no downside to this that I can see. It helps low level players gear, they're r/ex so no gil value for high level players, and you can only hold one so no fear of hoarding.

As for the higher level NMs, or "HNM"s, I recommend they be forced pop with items made through crafting, or purchased/dropped from GC's or Treasure Hunts, even dungeons. Making HNMs(forced pop) accessible and poppable through items gained through other content assures that they do not become the only content, like they were never intended. I suggest you read my example from the bottom of page 5... I think you'll actually like those ideas.

Anyway, to recap.

1) "Roaming NMs" - Low level, only purpose is to gear new players or give them a goal to gear up while waiting on long dungeon times. Possibly allowing their drops to be turned in for a small amount of seals once the hype has died down (so they're not useless)

2) "Popped NMs" - High level, think "Open world Dungeon boss/Coil boss", drop Armor within decent item level of current cap. Popped through Crafting or Drops from Dungeons/etc.

I'm all for more "flavor" mobs. There's that one quest named Captain mob in Middle LN that I liked, and was a little disappointed he didn't drop anything. WoW had tons of named rare mobs that served the OPs purpose - granted bonus XP and levelling gear (and occasionally some vanity item). It'd be cool if there were more named mobs around FFXIV worth bonus xp but not anything else.

However, there are already Hunt/FATE mechanics in our tiny little zones. Adding another NM mechanic is unnecessary. They could easily just add zone-level Hunts that awarded GC tokens and add pink gear rewards to certain boss FATEs.

Originally Posted by Jeykama

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They could just have low level/mid level FATE "NMs" drop Pink/Green tier gear to participants... I think that'd go a way toward our goal. To me, thats simply not the same, but I would accept it as a compromise if the "Simurgh" FATE occasionally awarded you a pair of "Trotter's Boots", a level appropriate green tier item. It would fill some purpose for me, as I think the biggest disappointment I feel when seeing FFXI NMs(Notorious Monsters btw, Simurgh, Ose, etc) is that they're FATE mobs and serve little to no purpose outside of window dressing for another boss fate. So if they added drops to those FATEs, I think I'd like em a bit more.

Anyway, I believe theres a good reason to add NMs, but I understand some aren't... I just don't see how some of these suggestions could do anything but help players and add more variety and flavor to not only the game, but to the open world.

Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

So your main desire isn't the NMs themselves, but the rewards they give. Because as you just said the NM exist in game they just don't drop the pink, green or blue gear that would make you want to camp them.

Not entirely, no. Drops, unique feeling or not, play a good part in it otherwise they're hollow in their existence... But as far as FATEs go, I said I would accept it as a compromise since it fulfills a part of what we're asking for. I have several other posts here describing in a good amount of detail what exactly I want, In the interest of not sounding like a broken record I recommend reading those. All I have to offer is in them ... and some of them are good reads if I do say so myself.

Originally Posted by BlaiseArath

Not entirely, no. Drops, unique feeling or not, play a good part in it otherwise they're hollow in their existence... But as far as FATEs go, I said I would accept it as a compromise since it fulfills a part of what we're asking for. I have several other posts here describing in a good amount of detail what exactly I want, In the interest of not sounding like a broken record I recommend reading those. All I have to offer is in them ... and some of them are good reads if I do say so myself.

No, BlaiseArath, you are asking for gear drops to be tied to NMs to not for NM to exist, for they already do. Just because the systems they are part of are not identical to FFXI's systems does not mean they do not exist.

Fates show when Notorious Monsters have spawned.
HNM exist in "He Taketh It With His Eyes," "Steel Reign," "Go, Go, Gorgimera," "The Eyes Have It," and "Lazy for You"
Wanted Targets in leve quests are also NMs.
Treasure Maps are NM forced spawn tokens.
All 3 ranks of targets in the Hunts are NM and S-ranks are also HNMs.

Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

So your main desire isn't the NMs themselves, but the rewards they give. Because as you just said the NM exist in game they just don't drop the pink, green or blue gear that would make you want to camp them.

The rewards sweetens the deal. We do most content in game for loot, so why not here too? I'd mostly love this for pre-50 content. We didn't get any new leveling gear since the game launched last year. (not counting glamor/event gear).

Flavor mobs with flavor loot, whats not to love?