Say NO to the New Possession (Claiming) Structure Being Developed!!!

[Dargoth_Draconia]

Quoted from 2nd poll results, by Yoshi-P:


With the overall results on both polls and the overall changes we've seen since them, I think it's safe to say that Yoshi and crew made up their minds beforehand. People asked for content, we got targetting fixes. We asked for AH, we got "beefed up" Market wards, etc, etc.

I'm 99.999999% that this is how they will be implementing this system. Bots are not going away any time soon, you can bet on that.

Edit: And seriously, don't give me the "if you don't like it you can quit" bullshit. It's a legitimate discussion, accept the fact that not everyone is going to agree with you. Grow the fuck up.

Lol, please heed your own advice before you spew it forth. I truly accept that a lot of people have a different point of view than me, hell the thread starter is in my LS and I don't have any problems with him other than a conflicting PoV. I also understand that me and you have nearly complete different PoV on most topics and I am not saying I am right and you are wrong but I was saying if you are going to go about in they way you are by pissing and moaning then you should just quit. It seems like you are fighting the game tooth and nail at everything they try to change and if you want something different, the simple solution is to play a different game.

Actually I was slightly wrong I was saying they are deciding between two systems but in actuality they are looking at implementing two systems as stated below from the translated articles from Famitsu by Reinhart.

New possession (claiming) structure.

Famitsu: Please tell us about later adjustments to monster claim (possession) structure.

Matsui: We’re making adjustments so we can drop the claiming system. This means others not in party can attack the same monster and RMT like players can try to take over so making it the party with the first attacker can only get the loot. For contents with alliance we’re thinking of a system where the loot is evenly distributed or changing amount of loot depending on amount of damage given.

Yoshida: I think it’s good where other players can help and with later alliance battle where few parties get together we really think we don’t need the claiming system. Contents that drop rare items will be more instance based in future, and will also lessen where you have to fight over to claim.

Famtisu: When you attack a monster that just popped the name doesn’t change to red and lessens the HP resulting in less EXP. Will this also be looked when these changes are going to be made?

Matsui: That’s is a bug and will be fixed.]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...er-2011/page26

Link to Reinhart full translations. Goes onto the next page I believe as well. If you haven't read this yet, you should.

[Cichy]

I like both instanced and Openworld evenly available to players. However i like the latter more. For me Instances are like inviting few friends over to your house and playing a game, i want open world stuff in MMORPG. I want to beat something and tell other i did it without them saying "Fraps or it didn't happen". I like how open world stuff teaches new players how do stuff by watching veteran players even if they are not in your party or Linkshell. The game is already low populated, last thing i want is making people do stuff in closed off areas and never see players outside cities.

Whats wrong with competition, i dont understand this? do people want stuff handed to them? want to have EXACT same gear as EVERYONE in town? thats what happens with 5 min respawn NMs and Raids, everyone get everything. I agree longer wait time =/= challenge, but it will make it so everyone will have the gear. if its quick repop, decrease the drop rate.

I kinda understand why people don't want the 3 hrs windows, i know cause im not in highschool anymore and dont have much time, but what makes you think HNM in FFXIV = 3 hr respawn? because FFXIV copied everything like FFXI ?(yeah right..wouldn't be in this mess if it did).

i think respawn time will be scaled just like job abillties in this game are, berserk in FFXI has 5 min recast, Ferocity in FFXIV has 1 min recast(of course duration varied but thats not the point, almost all skills have 1-3 min recast compared to FFXI's 3-20 mins and 2hrs).

Bots gonna exist in every game, people will eventually try to break the rule, but completely voiding open world stuff is idiotic(mind open world not = HNM/NM only), see item pop NMs, weather pop NM and other stuff that are not timed/windowed. one way to reduce claims by botting is to increase spawn area(like how FFXIV have it now) if someone where to use a program that can pos-hack and claim, it can be easily detected, also that "1-3 sec of immune to claim" FFXI had to help people with bad connection and prevent some bots.

Like I said before, they should add about 50 NMs that work like the ones that Tanka did that will drop above average-good gear. However, the best gear should be reserved for progressive content that people will have to work on instead of claim/get best item in the game like XI did. That's just stupid.

[Ilean]

all he wants to do is bring 0 competition to the game, how do people see a "sence of accomplishment" if you didnt compete for it in any form at all. Thats like running a race by yourself. YAY YOU WIN.

durrrrrrrrrrr

winning the fight should be challenging, not waiting like a moron and/or running a claimbot

[Raze]

I truly accept that a lot of people have a different point of view than me, hell the thread starter is in my LS and I don't have any problems with him other than a conflicting PoV.

Please go cry more elsewhere.

100% wrong.
do us all a favor and quit this game now, but before you do give me your account info. I will find a use for it.

Yeah dude, you're the levelheaded person these forums need. Either get a girlfriend or just shell out the money to get laid because you come off as really sad.

[Dargoth_Draconia]

Yeah dude, you're the levelheaded person these forums need. Either get a girlfriend or just shell out the money to get laid because you come off as really sad.

LOL, okay buddy. Coming from a guy who plays the game way more than I do, again heed your own advice before you spew it. That applies to all you kiddies out there, including you Mr. Sharp. You honestly made me laugh out loud.

[Raze]

LOL, okay buddy. Coming from a guy who plays the game way more than I do, again heed your own advice before you spew it. That applies to all you kiddies out there, including you Mr. Sharp. You honestly made me laugh out loud.

If you don't play the game that much then stop being so dramatic about a claim system. Some of us actually care instead of citing articles and speculation in a hope for attention. Like I said, you are a lonely, lonely man.

[Sorel]

If you don't play the game that much then stop being so dramatic about a claim system. Some of us actually care instead of citing articles and speculation in a hope for attention. Like I said, you are a lonely, lonely man.

Dargoth is a MAN!?!! I he told me he was a girl, and that was just a really large mole! I've been deceived!!!

OK. In all seriousness now, we have gotten WAY off topic, and maybe a mite too personal, no??

[MeowyWowie]

Lol, please heed your own advice before you spew it forth. I truly accept that a lot of people have a different point of view than me, hell the thread starter is in my LS and I don't have any problems with him other than a conflicting PoV. I also understand that me and you have nearly complete different PoV on most topics and I am not saying I am right and you are wrong but I was saying if you are going to go about in they way you are by pissing and moaning then you should just quit. It seems like you are fighting the game tooth and nail at everything they try to change and if you want something different, the simple solution is to play a different game.

Actually I was slightly wrong I was saying they are deciding between two systems but in actuality they are looking at implementing two systems as stated below from the translated articles from Famitsu by Reinhart.




http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...er-2011/page26

Link to Reinhart full translations. Goes onto the next page I believe as well. If you haven't read this yet, you should.

If you want to debate like an adult, cool. I enjoy a good debate. But don't act like a child and tell people to quit if they don't like something. I for one am thoroughly enjoying the game as it is now, though it definitely needs a lot more work.

Don't get all pissed because I've proven you wrong multiple times in this thread even after you've admitted them all after the fact. I'm not pissing and moaning like you seem to think I am. All of my arguments have valid points to them whether you see them that way or not. And all are based on the (limited) info we have at the moment.

You on the other hand, post your own assumptions (which is fine in most cases) then get mad when you are proven wrong. You then go on to claim that I am misinformed and link info, that I've already seen before mind you, which doesn't even have anything to do with this topic.

Think before you post, and know what you're talking about. And do so in an adult manner, if you want people to take you seriously.

[Eclipse]

Can also add this suggestion:

About claiming, why not just a "Help me out!" button and everyone can enter the fight. That's the simpliest and most logical feature.

Could be shown by a glowing or pulsing icon above the player's name and why not a change of monster's name color.

[Nabiri]

I can't see this system being implemented without lots of harassment and annoyances occurring.