Say NO to the New Possession (Claiming) Structure Being Developed!!!

[MeowyWowie]

Loosely translated even Reinhart himself said something along the lines of it being so and he isn't 100% sure everything was translated appropriately or have come out in they way they are supposed to mean. Very common mistake when translating Japanese to English. Claiming bots won't be needed because of the way the NMs are being handled because everyone gets a crack at them. It was always the most rare NMs or the ones that dropped rare loot that had claim bots on them while the low selling item or rare/ex gear didn't have bots around and the NMs that popped fairly quick as well. HNMs though on this game roam and spawn in wide areas making it less likely to see problems from bots.

I guess what I really should be saying is it is too late we are getting one of the two they are deciding upon whether you guys say no now or not. They took results from the poll and are decided which of the two to implement, read the translations carefully and you will see they are deciding on two systems atm. If you don't like and refuse to give it a chance just do us all a favor and quit this game now, but before you do give me your account info. I will find a use for it.

Quoted from 2nd poll results, by Yoshi-P:

Player opinions are pretty evenly split on this one, and the regional breakdowns are varied a bit as well. I'm kicking myself for not having put in a third option combining the other two: Skill and experience going to all parties, and loot going to only the first party to deal damage to an enemy.

I personally think that this mixed option (skill/experience to all involved parties, loot to only the claiming party) makes sense. Well, the official FFXIV forums will be going live shortly, and I'd very much like to open this topic up for discussion there to hear your opinions. I'll be posting, too!

With the overall results on both polls and the overall changes we've seen since them, I think it's safe to say that Yoshi and crew made up their minds beforehand. People asked for content, we got targetting fixes. We asked for AH, we got "beefed up" Market wards, etc, etc.

I'm 99.999999% that this is how they will be implementing this system. Bots are not going away any time soon, you can bet on that.

Edit: And seriously, don't give me the "if you don't like it you can quit" bullshit. It's a legitimate discussion, accept the fact that not everyone is going to agree with you. Grow the fuck up.

[Raze]

Quoted from 2nd poll results, by Yoshi-P:


With the overall results on both polls and the overall changes we've seen since them, I think it's safe to say that Yoshi and crew made up their minds beforehand. People asked for content, we got targetting fixes. We asked for AH, we got "beefed up" Market wards, etc, etc.

I'm 99.999999% that this is how they will be implementing this system. Bots are not going away any time soon, you can bet on that.

Edit: And seriously, don't give me the "if you don't like it you can quit" bullshit. It's a legitimate discussion, accept the fact that not everyone is going to agree with you. Grow the fuck up.

What about the old gem "why should the way I play matter to you QQ"

[Dargoth_Draconia]

Quoted from 2nd poll results, by Yoshi-P:


With the overall results on both polls and the overall changes we've seen since them, I think it's safe to say that Yoshi and crew made up their minds beforehand. People asked for content, we got targetting fixes. We asked for AH, we got "beefed up" Market wards, etc, etc.

I'm 99.999999% that this is how they will be implementing this system. Bots are not going away any time soon, you can bet on that.

Edit: And seriously, don't give me the "if you don't like it you can quit" bullshit. It's a legitimate discussion, accept the fact that not everyone is going to agree with you. Grow the fuck up.

Lol, please heed your own advice before you spew it forth. I truly accept that a lot of people have a different point of view than me, hell the thread starter is in my LS and I don't have any problems with him other than a conflicting PoV. I also understand that me and you have nearly complete different PoV on most topics and I am not saying I am right and you are wrong but I was saying if you are going to go about in they way you are by pissing and moaning then you should just quit. It seems like you are fighting the game tooth and nail at everything they try to change and if you want something different, the simple solution is to play a different game.

Actually I was slightly wrong I was saying they are deciding between two systems but in actuality they are looking at implementing two systems as stated below from the translated articles from Famitsu by Reinhart.

New possession (claiming) structure.

Famitsu: Please tell us about later adjustments to monster claim (possession) structure.

Matsui: We’re making adjustments so we can drop the claiming system. This means others not in party can attack the same monster and RMT like players can try to take over so making it the party with the first attacker can only get the loot. For contents with alliance we’re thinking of a system where the loot is evenly distributed or changing amount of loot depending on amount of damage given.

Yoshida: I think it’s good where other players can help and with later alliance battle where few parties get together we really think we don’t need the claiming system. Contents that drop rare items will be more instance based in future, and will also lessen where you have to fight over to claim.

Famtisu: When you attack a monster that just popped the name doesn’t change to red and lessens the HP resulting in less EXP. Will this also be looked when these changes are going to be made?

Matsui: That’s is a bug and will be fixed.]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...er-2011/page26

Link to Reinhart full translations. Goes onto the next page I believe as well. If you haven't read this yet, you should.

[Raze]

I truly accept that a lot of people have a different point of view than me, hell the thread starter is in my LS and I don't have any problems with him other than a conflicting PoV.

Please go cry more elsewhere.

100% wrong.
do us all a favor and quit this game now, but before you do give me your account info. I will find a use for it.

Yeah dude, you're the levelheaded person these forums need. Either get a girlfriend or just shell out the money to get laid because you come off as really sad.

[Dargoth_Draconia]

Yeah dude, you're the levelheaded person these forums need. Either get a girlfriend or just shell out the money to get laid because you come off as really sad.

LOL, okay buddy. Coming from a guy who plays the game way more than I do, again heed your own advice before you spew it. That applies to all you kiddies out there, including you Mr. Sharp. You honestly made me laugh out loud.

[Raze]

LOL, okay buddy. Coming from a guy who plays the game way more than I do, again heed your own advice before you spew it. That applies to all you kiddies out there, including you Mr. Sharp. You honestly made me laugh out loud.

If you don't play the game that much then stop being so dramatic about a claim system. Some of us actually care instead of citing articles and speculation in a hope for attention. Like I said, you are a lonely, lonely man.

[Sorel]

If you don't play the game that much then stop being so dramatic about a claim system. Some of us actually care instead of citing articles and speculation in a hope for attention. Like I said, you are a lonely, lonely man.

Dargoth is a MAN!?!! I he told me he was a girl, and that was just a really large mole! I've been deceived!!!

OK. In all seriousness now, we have gotten WAY off topic, and maybe a mite too personal, no??

[Dargoth_Draconia]

If you don't play the game that much then stop being so dramatic about a claim system. Some of us actually care instead of citing articles and speculation in a hope for attention. Like I said, you are a lonely, lonely man.

Have you not been reading my posts? Obviously not, I have cited a few articles posted by others but I have yet to speculate anything. I have been saying let us wait for future posts from Yoshi-P before complaining about something we do know not the details of. Being dramatic? Made me LOL again.

If you want to debate like an adult, cool. I enjoy a good debate. But don't act like a child and tell people to quit if they don't like something. I for one am thoroughly enjoying the game as it is now, though it definitely needs a lot more work.

Don't get all pissed because I've proven you wrong multiple times in this thread even after you've admitted them all after the fact. I'm not pissing and moaning like you seem to think I am. All of my arguments have valid points to them whether you see them that way or not. And all are based on the (limited) info we have at the moment.

You on the other hand, post your own assumptions (which is fine in most cases) then get mad when you are proven wrong. You then go on to claim that I am misinformed and link info, that I've already seen before mind you, which doesn't even have anything to do with this topic.

Think before you post, and know what you're talking about. And do so in an adult manner, if you want people to take you seriously.

You have proven me wrong? When? I have yet to see one time where you have done so. I guess in your own little world that just may be the case but in reality and actuality it is not. I have caught myself in one error when I said they were deciding between two systems and they were actually deciding to use both systems. I am not getting mad because you have proven me wrong on any occasion and and just returning the attack back at your in self defense. I admit in one post I wasn't directly writing to you but to the complainers instead(not people with different opinions but people who all they do every single post is complain about something or another). But Meowy, regardless of what we have been saying back and forth I still have respect for you and your opinions even though I don't agree with them.

[Raze]

You have proven me wrong? When? I have yet to see one time where you have done so. I guess in your own little world that just may be the case but in reality and actuality it is not. I have caught myself in one error when I said they were deciding between two systems and they were actually deciding to use both systems. I am not getting mad because you have proven me wrong on any occasion and and just returning the attack back at your in self defense. I admit in one post I wasn't directly writing to you but to the complainers instead(not people with different opinions but people who all they do every single post is complain about something or another). But Meowy, regardless of what we have been saying back and forth I still have respect for you and your opinions even though I don't agree with them.

You should have edited out the part where he says you should talk like an adult from your quote, or else you sound ridiculous no matter how much you cop out in your last sentence.

[MeowyWowie]

Lol, please heed your own advice before you spew it forth. I truly accept that a lot of people have a different point of view than me, hell the thread starter is in my LS and I don't have any problems with him other than a conflicting PoV. I also understand that me and you have nearly complete different PoV on most topics and I am not saying I am right and you are wrong but I was saying if you are going to go about in they way you are by pissing and moaning then you should just quit. It seems like you are fighting the game tooth and nail at everything they try to change and if you want something different, the simple solution is to play a different game.

Actually I was slightly wrong I was saying they are deciding between two systems but in actuality they are looking at implementing two systems as stated below from the translated articles from Famitsu by Reinhart.




http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...er-2011/page26

Link to Reinhart full translations. Goes onto the next page I believe as well. If you haven't read this yet, you should.

If you want to debate like an adult, cool. I enjoy a good debate. But don't act like a child and tell people to quit if they don't like something. I for one am thoroughly enjoying the game as it is now, though it definitely needs a lot more work.

Don't get all pissed because I've proven you wrong multiple times in this thread even after you've admitted them all after the fact. I'm not pissing and moaning like you seem to think I am. All of my arguments have valid points to them whether you see them that way or not. And all are based on the (limited) info we have at the moment.

You on the other hand, post your own assumptions (which is fine in most cases) then get mad when you are proven wrong. You then go on to claim that I am misinformed and link info, that I've already seen before mind you, which doesn't even have anything to do with this topic.

Think before you post, and know what you're talking about. And do so in an adult manner, if you want people to take you seriously.