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  1. #151
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    I'd like to see an example of this new claim system before saying yes or no, honestly.

    The current info about it is pretty vague.
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  2. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noctura View Post
    Just my opinion but...
    NO +3.. Terrible idea, imo. I want to be more social... not have more reasons to avoid people I don't know and don't invite that ruin my kills. I miss FFXI and I played for 8 years... I'd go back but they ruined that ... I really enjoy XIV since the update and hope someday I will actually talk to someone in game that I don't know irl or maybe even be in a LS if some miracle happens.
    I don't want someone coming up and interrupting my fights being a jerk because they can't find their own mobs.... putting this in would make me avoid other players completely while soloing, which is what I do 90% of the time because not a single person in the game talks to me anyway. I already deal with jerks coming up and trying to steal the mob I am targeting and right in front of, or some high level coming in and mass aoeing all the mobs I am exping on for their farming. I feel I don't need more issues with this. If they want in on the exp or the party I would be happy to do that if they are around my lvl. I try to be respectful and not claim anything someone is about to attack. They all act like I am not even there.

    "Hey I need those items, can I have some if you don't need them?" I would more then likely help out if I didn't need the item and even if I did I would try to share if there was plenty.... I want them to ASK ME. TALK, say actual WORDS that seem to be nonexistant in Eorzea. Not just come up and steal it without any reason to talk to the other person... No one has been welcoming, kind and helpful to me in Eorzea so far. I don't see this new system making this any better. I really want to work with other people not feel like I'm competing with them all the time. What I liked about FFXI was seeing so many people working together as a team and they made it work with that claiming system. I had more fun with that game then any I've ever played. I met more amazing people then I could name.... because they would walk up and ask me if I needed help or could give them a drop I might have gotten. My heart used to pound that last 60 seconds before an NM popped when 4 of us were standing there like an old fashioned showdown wondering which one would be the winner. I always congratulated and befriended at least a few people that way, and even joined them to hunt together.
    Again I will state this is just my opinion..... but that new system would more then likely ruin the game for me unless they get literally none of the reward unless they are in alliance or party.

    On a side note I don't want all the good drops to be in instanced raids either, and I detest the idea that everything good is on a stupid time limit. Since when did being rushed have to do with skillful play anyway.... I liked the mazed mapless areas, and all the aggro mobs, and the danger and sense of adventure.... not a linear dungeon with a time limit so the main challenge is to hurry without messing up...
    /sigh ...

    Anyway petitioned signed..... sorry for the minirant, lol. ^-^; Back to soloing. @_@
    Made it work if you had a claiming bot. If you didn't you were screwed. As I said before let them give us more information on which system they are going with before you complain or disagree with what is going to happen. It hasn't happened yet so there is nothing to disagree with.

    Plus if they use either system they talked about we don't yet know the details to it to the fullest extent. I am sure they have though of most of what people are not liking and are going to come up with a solution that works out. We need more information though on the new system before you have a valid point to disagree with.
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  3. #153
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    You have 100% reason to disagree with it, its just like everything elce yoshi is/wants to do, its all designed for low-man/never talking to anyone. The game is finally getting decent and all he wants to do is bring 0 competition to the game, how do people see a "sence of accomplishment" if you didnt compete for it in any form at all. Thats like running a race by yourself. YAY YOU WIN.
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  4. #154
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    Stuff like this is going to ruin the actual "socializing" part and replace it with a bunch of people rushing a mob. Pre-NM nerfs, low manning was the best part of the game. Having Random Dude A and Rank 25 Random dude B run up and start swinging takes way too much out of this.

    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    no you are blinded by what you want to see. my ls has lost quite a few of its members. since the update we have lost at least 15 of our 117 members and have replaced them with 2. granted we have seen 2 or 3 that have come on a few times since. the world is more dead because even when people are playing they are inside an instance so you don't see anyone. i'll also point out that the 15 members we have lost are members we've had since release and constant players.
    How can you talk so much without actually saying anything? Is that a gift?
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  5. #155
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    This is a horrible idea, I understand it they say it is not for the real rare items but at the same time lots of the player based want open world HNMS and like the competition. And if this is added this system has many problems to it. There will be people trying to wipe the group that claims it first so they can reclaim it, and second there is not a challenge to the fight if everyone can join in.
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  6. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dargoth_Draconia View Post
    Made it work if you had a claiming bot. If you didn't you were screwed. As I said before let them give us more information on which system they are going with before you complain or disagree with what is going to happen. It hasn't happened yet so there is nothing to disagree with.

    Plus if they use either system they talked about we don't yet know the details to it to the fullest extent. I am sure they have though of most of what people are not liking and are going to come up with a solution that works out. We need more information though on the new system before you have a valid point to disagree with.
    Matsui: We’re making adjustments so we can drop the claiming system. This means others not in party can attack the same monster and RMT like players can try to take over so making it the party with the first attacker can only get the loot. For contents with alliance we’re thinking of a system where the loot is evenly distributed or changing amount of loot depending on amount of damage given.
    Rest assured, claim bots will still be a problem. This new system solves nothing, it just adds more problems.
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  7. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by MizoreShirayuki View Post
    MeowyWowie & Co. have all stated valid points in another thread located here...

    The resounding theme of posters in that thread seems to be that a system of this nature is NOT wanted.

    This post is a petition to get Square Enix's attention. Sign this petition (Or click the like button) & let your voice be heard!

    Say NO to this system currently in development before it's too late!
    I say no to this crap claiming system, with out being told how it really works.
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  8. #158
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    I vote for NO on the future claiming system and a balanced game with World NMs, Instances and Pop Item NMs. Thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MizoreShirayuki View Post
    MeowyWowie & Co. have all stated valid points in another thread located here...

    The resounding theme of posters in that thread seems to be that a system of this nature is NOT wanted.

    This post is a petition to get Square Enix's attention. Sign this petition (Or click the like button) & let your voice be heard!

    Say NO to this system currently in development before it's too late!
    We really need a none of the above option. I wonder if I should like the OP even though I partially agree. Claim first sounds good but fighting for claim sounds bad. There should be a fine tuning of that. Instead of claim first if multiple people are in the area I think the drops should be duped out. Or the NM should be item popped. No need to have fighting over claims.
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  10. #160
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikozaemon View Post
    the truth is even HNM camping wasnt as bad as people made it out to be in ff11. The problem was lazy people that didnt want to show up and put in the time on the HNMs. I claimed numerous HNM/Kings and guess what i didnt use a bot. FF11 was a game that rewarded people who put time, effort and strategy into the game. ff14 is becoming the lazy mans game. w/ nothing but instance raids planned int he future. If a game only has raids then why not just play a damn console RPG because playing w/ the same 4-8 people is not a MMO experience.
    Oh I forgot that killing a HNM that was faceroll is considered "putting effort into it"...

    In XI you NEVER got rewarded for effort or strategy and skill, you got rewarded for time...mainly cause all it took was time, neither strategy nor skill...for the most part.

    The few boss' that actually required strategy/skill were the ones you forced pop...D'OH BIG SURPRISE HEH??

    Hell, the stupid 24h respawn 3 days+ King spawn chances were the initial reason for me to quit XI at some point...I was just sick of fighting over claims, instead of fighting mobs that required skill...cause once you had the claim, you killed it anyway, cause there was no skill involved.
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