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    Bishop81's Avatar
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    Eldon Pierce
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
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    "Ignore"/diminish the effects of the mechanic with proper prep IS the point of my proposed Class. It's pretty clear there are players that can't deal with it the normal way, i.e. dodging; which BTW pretty much negates the whole attack too.

    I'm just suggesting an out for high ping players, such that they can negate the attack in other ways.

    I asking for alternative ways to handle an encounter. There is no reason a fight has to be beat in one and only one way.

    The gameplay is shifted from "dodging in the fight" to figuring out the right load out to deal with it - i.e. like in old school FF.

    PS:
    Have you ever played an old school FF?
    PPS:
    Also I don't know where you get the "unavoidable AoE" from. I was mainly talking about so called "dodgeable" AoE that is "undodgeable" for anyone with a high ping.

    unless you want them to be able to use that ability to dodge it everything and trivialize the encounter.
    This is also a tad amusing.
    Pressing a movement key at the right time with a good connection the SE's server to dodge an attack = non-trivial
    but
    Figuring out what are needed skills and gear, collecting them if you don't have them, and figuring how to use them together effectively to negate an attack = trivial
    OK ...
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    Last edited by Bishop81; 12-07-2014 at 08:42 AM.

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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
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    > So how are we diminishing/ignoring the effects of mechanics like levaithan's slams and landslide? If you fall off, it's all over. Dodging/avoiding a mechanic is entirely separate from pushing a button to diminish it (which ninja can already do with both levi and titan mind you, using shukchi and perfect dodge respectively). And are there any trade offs for this aside from "the long hard work"? Are these classes doing less overall dps, have less healing output, or is naturally less tanky?

    > If they are frequently at high ping, heres the thing; are they meeting the minimal requirements, which includes broadband connection. If their ping is constantly at a high latency that they can't realistically do these encounters, then it's something on their end, either not meeting the minimum or just being distanced. And even then, high latency can still get in the way of negating these attacks unless its a persistent passive stat (which or may not lead to more problems with the above)

    > Dodging and dealing with mechanics is already "figuring out" the fight. How you "beat the fight" is also varied depending on the boss. T6 has the LoS vs briar, as well as SS vs burn. T7 has stacking renauds, T8 has 1 tank vs 2 tanks, etc etc.

    > I've played a couple of old school FFs, which are turn-based games. It's hard to make that jump unless I am missing something here.
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