Why did SE take thunder away from SMN?

[Bigcat9715]

Was it because with all 3 DoTs plus thunder fused with contagion that it was too much dps or was it because SMN needed a better aoe so they gave us blizzard 2, but if that's the case why not just give us blizzard 2 without taking anything away. It could be that its weird to contagion spark of electricity, but that's probably stretching it. Do you guys think we will get a fourth DoT and 2 new egis when the expansion comes out?

[Bishop81]

Probably too much DPS.

It's also kind of a lot of DoTs ... IMHO 3 is quite enough.

Personally I don't think the Job is well designed, it doesn't seem very "extendable" - just my opinion; I could be wrong.

No idea what SMN will get in Heavensword other than new Egis. More DoTs would be ...

Don't know what to think of the new Egis either. Got a feeling they will end up feeling more like "replacements" than "additions" since they are mutually exclusive with our current entourage.

We just have to see what next expansion brings I suppose.

[ManaKing]

Thunder was delightfully broken on SMN

[Ephier]

Way too much damage.

[Bigcat9715]

-snip-.

Yea, I think they should rework ACN maybe make it more buff/debuff having to put bravery on the melee dps or faith on magic users while debuffing the enemy. Maybe make the damage output for ACN based on the buff you give to your party, the debuff on the enemy, and your pet.

[Judge_Xero]

30 Potency + 18s @ 35 Potency + 15s Extension from Contagion

An extra 415 Potency attack for single target (240 Potency without Contagion) - Yep OP

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SMN will probably go into applying further buffs on your DOTs and then refreshing the timers on them to maintain that buffed damage for as long as possible.

[RyuDragnier]

Thunder was delightfully broken on SMN

As it was on WHM and SCH as well. That damage while in Cleric Stance was amazing~ <3

[Houston009]

Every new job/class introduced in any MMO are usually slightly OP/underwhelming, NIN and SMN(slightly op) are prime examples.

[Osmond]

Didn't want to make SMNs too OP regarding DoTs and I think contagion buff I think?

[Sleigh]

I'm actually unsure if SMN would be able to use Thunder in FCoB. IIRC it was the first thing to be taken out when MP was an issue since its MP to damage ratio was horrific without Contagion, and since SMN has to take a lot of liberties as is I'm not sure it'd be that great outside of opener and with Contagions.

Definitely was a factor in why SMN was the most absolutely broken DPS in 2.0 though, a party full of 2.0 BRDs and SMNs were probably the best comp for most fights.