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    Player
    Taliss's Avatar
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    Taliss Onette
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    Malboro
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Interesting, I always just attacked the head in levi on ninja.. no problems with physical damage in melee and spell damage period. Its still not worth using a lower potency attack when it eats the CD of a nerfed but still higher potency raiton (unless of course you are getting around a magic reflect).
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    Maero's Avatar
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Nin aoe is still better then Monk aoe however, so not sure were it can be said Monk has better, or is it in regards to this nerf? Sorry if i misread what was said.
    Dragoon has a edge over Nin and monk for aoe. I tend to only aoe every few turns to conserve tp anyhow but dot multiple enemies.
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    Calypso Celeste
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 60
    I can totally live with these changes
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    kyuven's Avatar
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 90
    Huh, pretty much exactly what I expected. Except i though it'd be Dancing Edge instead of Aeolian Edge, but it has the same overall effect if you're maintaining both.
    I didn't even KNOW about the poisons affecting damage, and it's a change that also makes perfect sense as well as calling a bit of attention to Fuma Shuriken since it's buffed by the poisons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    They never will! They will just find soemthing else to doom n gloom about XD Or totally ignore OP and continue the same XD
    Yeah now they can move on to saying:
    NIN is still OP despite the nerf
    DRG is now OP because of the buff
    the cash shop is the harbinger of ultimate destruction
    Boob windows will spell the end of society
    Lack of boob windows will spell the end of society.
    Tanks in speedos are the worst thing to ever grace this planet.
    The developers want to personally come to your house and shoot your dog.
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    Last edited by kyuven; 12-05-2014 at 03:50 AM.

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    Player Adrian74's Avatar
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    I''''''''l I''''''''l
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    Phantom
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Now that I think on it, if you want to feel already nerfed you just have to change raiton for fuma shuriken and then you obtain the damage that more or less you are going to do....

    Let's explain this.... Raiton is 320 potency. Fuma Shuriken is 240. But fuma shuriken will receive 20% for physical attack, that makes it 288 potency.... Still a big difference, you think? Okay, then let's say that Dancing Edge buff reduces 10% of enemy's slashing resistance, and it does affect fuma shuriken.... So, I don't know how it is calculated, but if we take it as a 10% of 288 it would be... 316. If you take it as a 10% based on the main potency then it would be 312... Almost no damage difference and fuma shuriken is casted easily with rarely chance of failing because mudra lagg and with possibility of cast between GCD.

    I guess Raiton will only be useful for PvP attacking other melees, or in enemies affected by Foe Requiem.
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    Player Kaze3434's Avatar
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    Rumina Asou
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian74 View Post
    Now that I think on it, if you want to feel already nerfed you just have to change raiton for fuma shuriken and then you obtain the damage that more or less you are going to do....

    Let's explain this.... Raiton is 320 potency. Fuma Shuriken is 240. But fuma shuriken will receive 20% for physical attack, that makes it 288 potency.... Still a big difference, you think? Okay, then let's say that Dancing Edge buff reduces 10% of enemy's slashing resistance, and it does affect fuma shuriken.... So, I don't know how it is calculated, but if we take it as a 10% of 288 it would be... 316. If you take it as a 10% based on the main potency then it would be 312... Almost no damage difference and fuma shuriken is
    no, raiton will still be the go to move. also, raiton does 360 potency.
    going to take a shot in the dark and say you think doton does tons of damage too.
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    axemtitanium's Avatar
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    Titania Basilikos
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    As I said, the sky is not falling.
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    Massterchef's Avatar
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    Zetsu Tei
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    Leviathan
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    Alchemist Lv 55
    Using my last T10 run as a bar, Suiton/Raiton contributed little less than 7% of my overall damage. With the 20% reduction taken into account, my DPS dropped by 4. Barely a nerf.
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    Player Adrian74's Avatar
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    I''''''''l I''''''''l
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    Phantom
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Uhm, now that you say it... It's true, 360 potency!... Stills... If you want to taste how the nerf will be use fuma shuriken instead of raiton, I already tried in some dungeons, I can live with it.
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    Adell Raynes
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 100
    I'm fine with these changes and 100% understand the tp change
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