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  1. #21
    Player
    kyuven's Avatar
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Erudain View Post
    Well not quite, but now when my Raiton lags and uses Fuma shuriken instead of cursing Yoshi, his mother, his grandma and all his cousins , I shall curse Yoshi only
    I dunno, those cousins, man...I think they need cursing. With their...cousining. And...being related to the sibling of Yoshi's parent. My word what horrible people they are because of that.
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  2. #22
    Player Adrian74's Avatar
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    I''''''''l I''''''''l
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Now that I think on it, if you want to feel already nerfed you just have to change raiton for fuma shuriken and then you obtain the damage that more or less you are going to do....

    Let's explain this.... Raiton is 320 potency. Fuma Shuriken is 240. But fuma shuriken will receive 20% for physical attack, that makes it 288 potency.... Still a big difference, you think? Okay, then let's say that Dancing Edge buff reduces 10% of enemy's slashing resistance, and it does affect fuma shuriken.... So, I don't know how it is calculated, but if we take it as a 10% of 288 it would be... 316. If you take it as a 10% based on the main potency then it would be 312... Almost no damage difference and fuma shuriken is casted easily with rarely chance of failing because mudra lagg and with possibility of cast between GCD.

    I guess Raiton will only be useful for PvP attacking other melees, or in enemies affected by Foe Requiem.
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  3. #23
    Player Kaze3434's Avatar
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    Rumina Asou
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian74 View Post
    Now that I think on it, if you want to feel already nerfed you just have to change raiton for fuma shuriken and then you obtain the damage that more or less you are going to do....

    Let's explain this.... Raiton is 320 potency. Fuma Shuriken is 240. But fuma shuriken will receive 20% for physical attack, that makes it 288 potency.... Still a big difference, you think? Okay, then let's say that Dancing Edge buff reduces 10% of enemy's slashing resistance, and it does affect fuma shuriken.... So, I don't know how it is calculated, but if we take it as a 10% of 288 it would be... 316. If you take it as a 10% based on the main potency then it would be 312... Almost no damage difference and fuma shuriken is
    no, raiton will still be the go to move. also, raiton does 360 potency.
    going to take a shot in the dark and say you think doton does tons of damage too.
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  4. #24
    Player RaizeGraymalkin's Avatar
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    Volta Fross
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keisatsu View Post
    Now all the doom and gloom people can stop, those changes aren't so bad at all!
    Changes weren't needed to begin with, but too many whining Dragoons. >_>

    They needed a buff. Ninja's didn't need a nerf.
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  5. #25
    Player Houston009's Avatar
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    Straigus Rheyist
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian74 View Post
    Hm.... Fuma Shuriken, I summon you! Now you have a place back in my skills! 240 + 48 = 288 against 320? Uhm....Not baddish at all, counting I like the fact fuma shuriken doesn't stop so much my hitting rhythm as raiton does... Seem it wasn't all over for my ninja, yay!
    You know raiton is 360 potency,right? And its effected by Foe Requiem.
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  6. #26
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    Daermon Ire
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaizeGraymalkin View Post
    Changes weren't needed to begin with, but too many whining Dragoons. >_>

    They needed a buff. Ninja's didn't need a nerf.
    Let's be honest, who's the real whiner here?
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  7. #27
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    Titania Basilikos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    As I said, the sky is not falling.
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  8. #28
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    Zetsu Tei
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    Alchemist Lv 55
    Using my last T10 run as a bar, Suiton/Raiton contributed little less than 7% of my overall damage. With the 20% reduction taken into account, my DPS dropped by 4. Barely a nerf.
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  9. #29
    Player Adrian74's Avatar
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    I''''''''l I''''''''l
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    Uhm, now that you say it... It's true, 360 potency!... Stills... If you want to taste how the nerf will be use fuma shuriken instead of raiton, I already tried in some dungeons, I can live with it.
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    Adell Raynes
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 50
    I'm fine with these changes and 100% understand the tp change
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