2.45 Nin changes

**kyuven** · 12-05-2014 03:53 AM

Originally Posted by Erudain

Well not quite, but now when my Raiton lags and uses Fuma shuriken instead of cursing Yoshi, his mother, his grandma and all his cousins , I shall curse Yoshi only

I dunno, those cousins, man...I think they need cursing. With their...cousining. And...being related to the sibling of Yoshi's parent. My word what horrible people they are because of that.

**Houston009** · 12-05-2014 06:23 AM

Originally Posted by Adrian74

Hm.... Fuma Shuriken, I summon you! Now you have a place back in my skills! 240 + 48 = 288 against 320? Uhm....Not baddish at all, counting I like the fact fuma shuriken doesn't stop so much my hitting rhythm as raiton does... Seem it wasn't all over for my ninja, yay!

You know raiton is 360 potency,right? And its effected by Foe Requiem.

**Keisatsu** · 12-05-2014 02:39 AM

Now all the doom and gloom people can stop, those changes aren't so bad at all!

**Sapphic** · 12-05-2014 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by Keisatsu

Now all the doom and gloom people can stop, those changes aren't so bad at all!

They never will! They will just find soemthing else to doom n gloom about XD Or totally ignore OP and continue the same XD

**RaizeGraymalkin** · 12-05-2014 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by Keisatsu

Now all the doom and gloom people can stop, those changes aren't so bad at all!

Changes weren't needed to begin with, but too many whining Dragoons. >_>

They needed a buff. Ninja's didn't need a nerf.

**Katsaria** · 12-05-2014 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by RaizeGraymalkin

Changes weren't needed to begin with, but too many whining Dragoons. >_>

They needed a buff. Ninja's didn't need a nerf.

Let's be honest, who's the real whiner here?

**Maero** · 12-05-2014 02:45 AM

Are these the only changes for certain? If so yeah not all too bad afterall, thank goodness

**Taliss** · 12-05-2014 02:45 AM

I would have to assume that fuma shuriken is still considered magic damage (unaspected though) considering its pulled from the ninjitsu list. Even if it was physical and got the potency boost from poison it wouldn't be worth using in standard rotation with lower potency and quicker return to dagger skills, it would start causing more TP problems and less damage.

**whiskeybravo** · 12-05-2014 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by Taliss

I would have to assume that fuma shuriken is still considered magic damage (unaspected though) considering its pulled from the ninjitsu list. Even if it was physical and got the potency boost from poison it wouldn't be worth using in standard rotation with lower potency and quicker return to dagger skills, it would start causing more TP problems and less damage.

I agree. It would be different if you could use it more frequently since it's only one mudra instead of 2 for Raiton, but since they are both 20 sec CDs might as well use the higher potency attack.

**Adrian74** · 12-05-2014 02:48 AM

In Leviathan fight, while doing a lot of nexus farm, I could use fuma shuriken in the tail that it didn't get reflected, while raiton, katon and suiton were.... Even unaspected magic like ruin II or ruin is reflected there.... Thus... fuma shuriken is not magic damage, it is ranged damage (Levi's head reflect it, but not the tail)

Fuma shuriken is basically a double potency, almost double reach Throwing Dagger. Still Raiton has more potency, indeed, and if you're running out of TP you don't really need to be so quick on attacks.... But I doubt it, I only had TP troubles before in AoE... I guess that 10tp more per skill can easily be solved with the every-2-min invigorate.

Now, what really worries me is....

AoE... Unlike my dragoon and monk doing AoE with the ninja is annoying, it feels like your TP action is just useless and now your katon and doton will be almost the same useless... This effectively reduces our AoE power by 20% that, have to say, was already poor compared with DRG and MNK.... (They clearly did this 20% less in Ninjutsu because PvP whiners... Then just change that for PvP). You can't waste all your TP neither because it won't recover in battle later... So... Or either you go two NIN for goad themselves or go always with a BLM for compensating your absolute lack of AoE?.... So let's see... MNK is the top 1 in one target and doubles you in AoE.... And DRG will be only slight inferior than NIN in one target but also doubling or even a little more in AoE.... Uhm...That silence + stun must be really awardly I guess.... (Since it is one of the poor excuses used for say they are overpowered)

Don't misunderstand me! I thought the nerf would be quite worse.... But....Damn, if AoE was already pathetic... I guess I'll just go to kill targets one in one even if the tank decides to do a big pull.

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