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  1. #21
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    Kisara Kagura
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldreactive View Post
    I'm sure MPK Trolls would find a way to exploit that and kill legit players.
    Not if it doesn't have some aoe attacks.... if it just attacks the specified player it would be fine
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    Last edited by Basch1990; 12-04-2014 at 03:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basch1990 View Post
    Not if it doesn't have some aoe attacks.... if it just attacks the specified player it would be fine
    Would be better if it could only attack players with AFK Status on and like you said, no AOE attacks.
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  3. #23
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    Cirra Maru
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janhyua View Post
    Then who's going to supply us our shards? You farm 1000 for me each day? I give you 10 Gil each
    1000 shards takes 10 minutes to farm, plus if you grind them on 50 nodes you can get a piesteskin, toadskin or boarskin map while you are getting them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    1000 shards takes 10 minutes to farm, plus if you grind them on 50 nodes you can get a piesteskin, toadskin or boarskin map while you are getting them.
    1000 shards in 10 min is 2.4 seconds a node. Im going to say that pretty impossible even if you add the respective ward thats like 3.1 seconds a node.
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    Janhyua Yotsuyu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    1000 shards takes 10 minutes to farm, plus if you grind them on 50 nodes you can get a piesteskin, toadskin or boarskin map while you are getting them.
    so you saying people actually when out there to farm shards by cutting down tree sure why
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuinceTaru View Post
    1000 shards in 10 min is 2.4 seconds a node. Im going to say that pretty impossible even if you add the respective ward thats like 3.1 seconds a node.
    Cause he is a machine he thinks we are like bots too....
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janhyua View Post
    Cause he is a machine he thinks we are like bots too....
    Indeed any1 with those kind of numbers is a bot lol
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by RegnumMagik View Post
    I think a much more realistic answer is 2.1K every few hours if you're actually going for mastercraft.
    OK 8 miner/botanist retainers, 60 shards each/40 minutes. If I had stockpiles of the ingredients, I could still get shards fast enough to keep up with making relish.
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    Amazon Dotcom
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    People are vastly overestimating how many shards you can bring in via mining, botany, or retainers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    1000 shards takes 10 minutes to farm, plus if you grind them on 50 nodes you can get a piesteskin, toadskin or boarskin map while you are getting them.
    That's 1.6 shards on average every 1 second. Even if you use proper cooldowns and chug cordial on cooldown, you won't get anywhere even remotely close to that many.

    Quote Originally Posted by RegnumMagik View Post
    I think a much more realistic answer is 2.1K every few hours if you're actually going for mastercraft.
    This is the closest thing so far. Over the course of a 24 hour period, a single retainer can bring in 2160 shards if you send them out the split second they get back. If you have 4 mining/botany retainers for some reason, that would be 2160 in 6 hours, or 8640 per day. That's a lot of shards, but it means really being on the ball with sending them out, too.
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  10. #30
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Marauder Lv 90
    All of this can be easily solved by only allowing accounts to have a max of 8 characters instead of 40. Who has time other than botters, rmt, and possible sentient life to lvl 40 characters just so they can sub and mule and stuff.

    I don't know about you guys but 5 rmt sellers restricted to 8 characters per account sounds a lot better than 5 rmt sellers with 40 characters to their account. This applies to botting too.
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