Botting must go!!!

[coldreactive]

See now if we can get them to start working on a program now to stop it we would be fine.... personally I don't think they really are trying since they continue to get subs from the bots

If you've seen some older free to plays though... they use XTrap, GameGuard, nProtect... and none of them work. In fact, Mabinogi has GameGuard and they have this weird in-game captcha bomb item you can use on a bot if you see one, but they bypass both the GameGuard and captcha. Angels Online had an in-game captcha system too for a while, but removed it after they found out bots were still bypassing it.

So, it's hard to make anti-bot systems. Some games have less bots due to the way they allow real money trading as a part of the game's features (IE: Guild Wars 2 and Perfect World.) But, as FFXIV is a pay to play, this won't cut it. What they could do as well, is add a dot wherever there isn't solid land or anywhere that's outside normal hitboxes... this would make it so that bots that are underground would suffer. (And make it so DOTs actually cancel interactions.)

[StouterTaru]

I think a much more realistic answer is 2.1K every few hours if you're actually going for mastercraft.

OK 8 miner/botanist retainers, 60 shards each/40 minutes. If I had stockpiles of the ingredients, I could still get shards fast enough to keep up with making relish.

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People are vastly overestimating how many shards you can bring in via mining, botany, or retainers.

1000 shards takes 10 minutes to farm, plus if you grind them on 50 nodes you can get a piesteskin, toadskin or boarskin map while you are getting them.

That's 1.6 shards on average every 1 second. Even if you use proper cooldowns and chug cordial on cooldown, you won't get anywhere even remotely close to that many.

I think a much more realistic answer is 2.1K every few hours if you're actually going for mastercraft.

This is the closest thing so far. Over the course of a 24 hour period, a single retainer can bring in 2160 shards if you send them out the split second they get back. If you have 4 mining/botany retainers for some reason, that would be 2160 in 6 hours, or 8640 per day. That's a lot of shards, but it means really being on the ball with sending them out, too.

[Chiramu]

People are vastly overestimating how many shards you can bring in via mining, botany, or retainers.



That's 1.6 shards on average every 1 second. Even if you use proper cooldowns and chug cordial on cooldown, you won't get anywhere even remotely close to that many.

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Stop being so pedantic.

[Chiramu]

Then who's going to supply us our shards? You farm 1000 for me each day? I give you 10 Gil each

1000 shards takes 10 minutes to farm, plus if you grind them on 50 nodes you can get a piesteskin, toadskin or boarskin map while you are getting them.

[QuinceTaru]

1000 shards takes 10 minutes to farm, plus if you grind them on 50 nodes you can get a piesteskin, toadskin or boarskin map while you are getting them.

1000 shards in 10 min is 2.4 seconds a node. Im going to say that pretty impossible even if you add the respective ward thats like 3.1 seconds a node.

[Janhyua]

1000 shards in 10 min is 2.4 seconds a node. Im going to say that pretty impossible even if you add the respective ward thats like 3.1 seconds a node.

Cause he is a machine he thinks we are like bots too....

[QuinceTaru]

Cause he is a machine he thinks we are like bots too....

Indeed any1 with those kind of numbers is a bot lol

[Janhyua]

1000 shards takes 10 minutes to farm, plus if you grind them on 50 nodes you can get a piesteskin, toadskin or boarskin map while you are getting them.

so you saying people actually when out there to farm shards by cutting down tree sure why

[Airget]

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They do something about it, it just takes time. Once they remove gilsellers, they come back and restart the process. The only way to deal with it is in bulk. The developers gain nothing from eliminating drone bots, they only succeed if they get rid of the source. When they find the source, they hit hard and take down the command centre. It's like a sting operation or an undercover operation, they have to go in deep and find the core and eliminate it.

What good does it do to arrest a few drug dealers when all the main group will do is recruit more needy people that are desperate for cash? In order to stop it you have to figure out the mastermind behind it and get rid of them and that's what they do with their current botting policy. They study the enemy and strike when they feel they can deal a big blow because if you just keep removing bots all that will serve to do is cause them to play safer and safer, and the safer they try to be the harder it is to catch them so they have to time it just right to eliminate the most RMT in one fell swoop.