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  1. #1
    Player
    Canadane's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    That helps FCs as ours, that dedicated so much time and effort to get the house, being able to ask the new members to give a little contribute to our chest before get house access rights. Who wants join us just to leech the perks and give nothing in exchange, will just not be able to get housing access.
    My company of 100 or so people all have housing access. The FC house was paid for, mostly, by only two members with small contributions from others along the way. These smaller contributors which were never even asked to do it. It was more that they noticed a 10+ million in the FC chest and they asked what it was for. When they were told that we were saving for a house, many just tossed in what they could without a second thought.
    It's not like we're paying a mortgage on it and need to keep up our monthly payments else it's repossessed. It's bought and paid for, and we're not living in a world of debt. There'd be no reason for either of those, or the FC as a whole, to ask for payments on something that's already done. Even a "leeching" user still usually contributes company seals here and there.
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    Veji's Avatar
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    Character
    Geteav Nroc
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Can't leave FC: "Halp! I have been virtually kidnapped!"
    Boss kills you: "Halp! I've been virtually killed!"
    Someone sits on your head after you die "Halp! I've been sexually molested!"
    Priceless.
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    Character
    Lady Jasmine
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    you can just leave the FC and collect your furnishings from an npc in the ward cant recall which one off hand ... maybe locking all members out of fc creates some serious bug never had members locked out before thats fck'd up definitely report him for harassment
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    Squa11_Leonhart's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Kaya Yuuna
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ladyJ View Post
    you can just leave the FC and collect your furnishings from an npc in the ward cant recall which one off hand ... maybe locking all members out of fc creates some serious bug never had members locked out before thats fck'd up definitely report him for harassment
    No you can't, that feature was only added for the case of discharging members that have a personal room.
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    Nim Rahz
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    Lich
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Shyuu_Avalon, have you contacted support? File a ticket and see what happens
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    Malfoy Fleurentine
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    Another perk is your private room, that you cannot get if you cannot enter house.
    Then I do not posted that reason for any arguing how much you like it or not, it were just to let you know there are reasons for the option to exists.
    There might be reasons, but "you're basically not considered a part of our FC until you pay us" is not a good one.
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  7. #7
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Not to defend it, because I think it's a terrible and alienating idea to bar members from entering your FC house until they've reached a certain rank, but there ARE perks inside a FC house that "leeches" could theoretically abuse. The vendors you can put there are awesome, and I could easily see a crafter joining a FC SOLELY for the purpose of accessing their vendor.

    Of course no matter how antisocial the leech, the very act of crafting contributes company points so it's not really feasible to be a TOTAL leech. Also, having someone access the vendor doesn't actually cost the FC members anything.

    A way people COULD cost an FC actual money is joining them in order to eat their food furnishings. I find it hilarious, though, to contemplate anyone being paranoid enough to believe someone would actually join a FC to eat their furnishings. XD If it did happen, I'd imagine it would be an actual targeted attack against the FC; someone from outside the FC who has a grudge or something... They fool someone into inviting them to the FC, and then they DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE! THEY DRINK IT UP!
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    kyuven's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Character
    Chen Kotomi
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Not to defend it, because I think it's a terrible and alienating idea to bar members from entering your FC house until they've reached a certain rank, but there ARE perks inside a FC house that "leeches" could theoretically abuse. The vendors you can put there are awesome, and I could easily see a crafter joining a FC SOLELY for the purpose of accessing their vendor.
    How to solve the problem: The door can't be locked to FC members, but access to amenities can. Other games, including EQ2 which uses a very similar housing system (although theirs is entirely instanced and the guild (FC) houses are much, much MUCH larger) allow you to lock the use of amenities without locking access. Of course the game also allows you to relinquish a house and just have the contents packed into a moving crate and placed in your next house soooo yeah.
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    Hulan's Avatar
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    Character
    Alec Temet
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Not to say that it's a great idea, and our FC certainly doesn't do it, but another - possibly more reasonable - use of the function would be for trial members. Like if you are a company that accepts a lot of people, but want to make sure they will fit in with the group before actually "admitting" them. Just fully restrict them from the FC functions in general (including housing) basically turns the FC into a glorified Linkshell. I suppose you could always just have a Linkshell for testing new members, but having an entry rank would probably be easier. Hard to justify though.
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