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    Shyuu_Avalon's Avatar
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    well, from what it looks like hes trying to sell his character, logs in just once a month to keep the mansion, and wants to keep everyone else locked into staying in the fc. trouble is, everyone else left except the people with the rooms, and since they got locked out ive been the only person logging in now and trying to leave for a week.
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    Kiriah Aishi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyuu_Avalon View Post
    well, from what it looks like hes trying to sell his character, logs in just once a month to keep the mansion, and wants to keep everyone else locked into staying in the fc. trouble is, everyone else left except the people with the rooms, and since they got locked out ive been the only person logging in now and trying to leave for a week.
    If you can prove this case, that would up the issue to an RMT realated issue. That could either make it better of worse.
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    Doctor Pepper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violyre View Post
    If you can prove this case, that would up the issue to an RMT realated issue. That could either make it better of worse.
    The only way to prove something in this game is if the person in question specifically says they're doing something in the chat log. GMs will not accept screenshots or video evidence as those types of evidence are capable of being tampered with. I highly doubt that he would be stupid enough to say he's selling his character in game at all, let alone in any public setting.

    Some of the design flaws when it comes to FCs in general don't make any sense in this game. This takes me right back to all the threads about FC members being able to promote people to ranks higher than their own if they have the right permission and then stealing all of the company chest items/gil. I still don't think they've changed that one even to this day.
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    Last edited by DoctorPepper; 12-04-2014 at 08:06 AM.

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    Kai Ulric
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    The only way to prove something in this game is if the person in question specifically says they're doing something in the chat log. GMs will not accept screenshots or video evidence as those types of evidence are capable of being tampered with. I highly doubt that he would be stupid enough to say he's selling his character in game at all, let alone in any public setting..
    True but couldn't she tell the GM's that shes been locked out of the house so can't get to her room to leave the FC? The GM's should be able to see their FC settings and see if it is true that their leader has locked everyone out and made it impossible to leave and get to their own private rooms. Maybe it won't prove the whole 'selling character etc' but it will prove that he's forcing people to stay in the FC, which could be possibly viewed as hurting player progression/harassment..?

    @OP sorry this is happening, and I hope SE replies to you soon and helps. That's very rude for someone to do to other players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    The only way to prove something in this game is if the person in question specifically says they're doing something in the chat log. GMs will not accept screenshots or video evidence as those types of evidence are capable of being tampered with. I highly doubt that he would be stupid enough to say he's selling his character in game at all, let alone in any public setting.
    I was aware of this requiring it said in-game. I also have very low thoughts on the intelligence of anyone in any act of RMT. It's possible that they ARE stupid enough to say it in-game.
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    Kaya Yuuna
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyuu_Avalon View Post
    well, from what it looks like hes trying to sell his character, logs in just once a month to keep the mansion, and wants to keep everyone else locked into staying in the fc. trouble is, everyone else left except the people with the rooms, and since they got locked out ive been the only person logging in now and trying to leave for a week.
    Selling characters is against the TOS, SE, Suspend the players account and enact an 'investigation' that lasts until the FC's leadership is passed to the next most active/highest ranked player.
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    Quesse Mithril
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    Wow this is awful. ;; Surprised no GM has helped you yet.
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Are you the only member of the FC? If so, have them help out. They're ostensibly being held prisoner as well.
    That said, it's absolutely stupid that an FC leader can block FC members from accessing something they paid for. I can understand blocking usage of amenities such as company chests, merchants, etc., but this is one of the most absurd design oversights i've ever seen.
    Actually it's more than a design oversight since they had to intentionally add it. WTF?
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    Jordan Lewis
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    I can sympathize with having a crazy fc leader. Mine, back when atma came out got so mad that he couldnt get any to drop that he kicked everyone out of the fc after we had just finished buying a mansion (a mansion that most of us put in the majority of the gil for) and locked us out of the mansion. he then came on the forums to make a rage quit post and was surprised when people didnt side with him.
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    Buff Archer
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    If an FC leader doesn't log in, in a certain number of days, the FC goes to someone else (as I'm sure you know, and which is like you said why he logs in monthly)... if he logs in on a very strict schedule (say every 30 days) how awesome would it be if you could get him suspended right before its his login time and have the FC fall into your hands. I'd go over the ToS very carefully to see if you can find any technicalities which you can report him for, and based on him his ostensible reason for what he's doing (saving the FC to sell) SE might be more willing to do it to prevent this type of activity. If you can get in a conversation with him and say the right things where you don't break the ToS but it sets him off enough to use hate speech and threats against you to a degree that breaks the ToS... you don't need screenshots anyway, just a timely GM report where they can review the logs themselves (that stuff does get saved for obvious reasons). Send him a Moogle Mail saying that the FC members think he is not an effective leader and they would like to request he step down from the position, and see if you get a super nasty response back. Just don't open the his response, if you get one, until right before you'd like to try and get him banned just in case you're lucky enough for him to send something really bad.

    How many FC credits do you have? That's the number next to the Silver star at top right of FC window, that FC members generate and which officers can spend on FC bonuses. Perhaps his incentive in holding FC members hostage is so he can one day sell the FC with a big ass balance to buy them with. Because right now the only one able to purchase FC actions is most likely him, and I guarantee he's not doing it... so each day that balance goes up and up.
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    Last edited by Buff_Archer; 12-04-2014 at 10:42 AM.

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