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    Leyra's Avatar
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    Annihya Tezani
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    Archer Lv 7

    Cross class skills: why does CNJ have botany and mining skills available?

    I do not understand what use CNJ can get from taking cross class skills from botany or mining. Can someone please explain?

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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    All classes get this. Just one of those things, doesn't hurt anyone, but rarely you'll get someone in a dungeon with them active and that's a good sign they're an idiot. That's about it.
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    Deneb Algiedi
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    The base classes are a relic of the 1.0 system, and allow players to access all cross-class skills from all classes. As you can guess, some are more useful than others, while others are completely useless for the class. The gatherer skills are simply useless on the combat classes but the game code was likely written in such a way that removing them causes instabilities or bugs.

    The team is outright eliminating classes for future jobs in 3.0 heavensward, but I don't know if they'll rewrite the current game code and remove classes altogether. It's a lot of work to fix something that has relatively little impact on players. Most just ignore them although there is a small minority of players who want all the cross-class abilities accessible even if they will never be able to play publicly with those subpar loadouts.
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    Last edited by Anova; 12-03-2014 at 04:15 PM.

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    Asny Rak'nys
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Anova View Post
    The team is outright eliminating classes for future jobs in 3.0 heavensward
    We only know that DRK will be a base job. We have no info if they are getting rid of classes outright. There might be lore reasons for this or they might actually be working towards this. I doubt though that they will ever remove the base classes that are in play now.
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Ninja Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Anova View Post
    The base classes are a relic of the 1.0 system, and allow players to access all cross-class skills from all classes.
    Not quite all. The crafting cross-class skills, for instance, are only crossable to other DoH classes, as there would be literally no way for a class that doesn't craft to use them.

    And while some DoL skills (the ones pertaining to finding gathering nodes) are crossable to DoW/DoM classes, the level 20 ones (Byregot's / Nald'thal's / Thalik's / Nophica's / Menphina's / Llymlaen's Ward) are cross-class-able only to other DoL classes, because those ones can only be used while gathering. (I believe in that case, the actual rule is that they're assignable by any DoL class, but really it's only useful to cross the BTN ones to MIN and the MIN ones to BTN. FSH has no use for any of them, but I believe is still allowed to assign them to cross-class slots anyway.)
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    A'rron Amariyo
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    Gladiator Lv 64
    This is the way I see it,
    All classes have access to miner and botanist abilities (not just cnj), and for one reason, productivity!
    There are some hardcore gatherers out there, and the ability to use Truth of the Mountains/Forest to detect unspoiled nodes while farming other items as DoW/M will reduce any downtime while gathering.
    I'd much rather be spanking sheep for fleece in Coerthas while waiting for that unspoiled rock to pop, than stand there with my pick out for hours..... Boring!!
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I think the main use is so that you can pop them while running around doing stuff on your battle classes and see "Oh hey, there's nodes here."
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