Curiuous about Dravania.

[Cxplorer]

Any info on the current game about Dravania? I know that we will have access in 3.0 and that dragons lives there but i'm curious about any lore related to it.

[Anonymoose]

That pretty much is all the lore related to Dravania. We'll be going there in 3.0 and it has dragons. As far as I can tell, they left it pretty vague so that we'd be questioning who was more righteous in the war between the dragons of Dravania and the knights of Ishgard right up until we found out for ourselves, expecting to release that content within a reasonable time frame --- and then 1.0 crashed and burned. Aside from a little bit of the inner workings of the Horde, pretty much all we know about Dravania is that Sharlayan used to have a colony there until it was abandoned when peace talks with the empire fell through in 1562 (6AE).

[Cxplorer]

Sharlayan? Peace talk?! Tell me more..

[Anonymoose]

Sharlayan is an island north of Aldenard, but they established a colony in Eorzea as the Sixth Astral Era city-states rose, which they also named Sharlayan (think of how English colonies named a bunch of their towns after towns in England, or how people who took the Oregon trail from Portland [ME] to build Portland [OR]). The Sharlayans are a pretty anti-war, scholarly crowd, so when the Garleans took Ala Mhigo in 1557 (6AE), they tried their hand at diplomacy.

In 1562 (6AE), the Empire had consolidated their power in Ala Mhigo and were using it as their foothold in Eorzea, hoping to launch an armada of airships into Mor Dhona, take the heart of the realm, and control the aether from its center of convergence in hopes of preventing the beast tribes from summoning primals (the Empire had gone up against primals in Othard, and it cost them dearly). From there, they could bring the rest of the realm under control. The Sharlayans, realizing that these peace talks had completely fallen through, abandoned Eorzea back to their island home. The Empire's advance hit a ten year delay, though, after their grab for Mor Dhona resulted in the Battle of Silvertear Skies (Midgardsormr and a horde of Dravanians tore the armada apart and the Garlean flagship crashed into Silvertear Lake, killing Midgardsormr and breaking the seal on Mor Dhona's aetherial conflux as the whole thing went up in a ceruleum explosion).

[Thistledown]

So Dravanians basically said 'These Eorzeans (especially Ishgardians) are filthy mongrels but they are MY mongrels!' when Garlemald attacked Eorzea? Always wondered why dragons would help the rest of Eorzea.

[Ramen]

... after their grab for Mor Dhona resulted in the Battle of Silvertear Skies (Midgardsormr and a horde of Dravanians tore the armada apart and the Garlean flagship crashed into Silvertear Lake, killing Midgardsormr and breaking the seal on Mor Dhona's aetherial conflux as the whole thing went up in a ceruleum explosion).

Prof. Moose! Prof. Moose! /raise hand

Is it the ship fall down and broke the seal under lake or the Midgardsormr itself is like the primal after he die he release the energy and become little primals? 1.0 opening CG)
So, when all primal die and they release something to somewhere... Is that what Ascians want to do that grab all the energy back and bring back Midgardsormr? cus they seems happy after we killed all the (hard/extreme) primals...

[lololink]

So Dravanians basically said 'These Eorzeans (especially Ishgardians) are filthy mongrels but they are MY mongrels!' when Garlemald attacked Eorzea? Always wondered why dragons would help the rest of Eorzea.

They protected the lake, they saw the agrius as an threat and attacked them, but we don't know how much hostile dragons are to non Ishgardians. They don't seem to attack anyone except that Dragon at brayflox's place, but maybe it was his nest or something. I still don't know why we should help the Ishgardians, we should side with the dragons they seem stronger and don't close their doors when an invader comes to eorzea.

[Anonymoose]

Always wondered why dragons would help the rest of Eorzea.

We may get an answer to this in 2.5, but, if not, you can still make a couple of guesses. It probably plays into the legend that Midgardsormr was created by the Althyk and Nymeia to guard Silvertear Lake, a place most sacred. What the truth of that is? Who knows. Did gods truly do so? Was he a dragon king enslaved by the Allag to protect the heart of their empire and the other dragons obeyed his orders? Is Mor Dhona special to the dragons, as well, and they'd protect it for us, from us, and regardless of us? All in all, Midgardsormr was probably protecting the aetherial seal, not "our land," but as for the reason? Please look forward to it!

They protected the lake, they saw the agrius as an threat and attacked them, but we don't know how much hostile dragons are to non Ishgardians. They don't seem to attack anyone except that Dragon at brayflox's place, but maybe it was his nest or something. I still don't know why we should help the Ishgardians, we should side with the dragons they seem stronger and don't close their doors when an invader comes to eorzea.

This is another point worth exploring. The Coil storyline implies that dragons as a whole cannot be at peace so long as mankind as a whole still exists, but that might not be entirely accurate. Those dragons were Meracydian, not Dravanian. And several people have accused the Ishgardians of misrepresenting their war with Dravania. Those politics, however, are probably going to be explored quite thoroughly in 3.0.

Is it the ship fall down and broke the seal under lake or the Midgardsormr itself is like the primal after he die he release the energy and become little primals? 1.0 opening CG) So, when all primal die and they release something to somewhere... Is that what Ascians want to do that grab all the energy back and bring back Midgardsormr? cus they seems happy after we killed all the (hard/extreme) primals...

That all depends on what the primal explosion in 1.0 was. What we saw in that cutscene was the Garlean armada, centered on the flagship Agrius, invading Mor Dhona and getting intercepted by Midgardsormr. The dragon coiled around Agrius and dragged it into the ground - but that set off the ceruleum fuel and blew them both up. This explosion also broke the seal that Midgardsormr was protecting. Now, Midgardsormr himself was a dragon, not a primal, but when the explosion went off and the seal broke, you saw all these primals flying out of it. What was that? We still don't really know. Was it just showing that the aetherial seal was broken and the land was flooded with so much aether at such an imbalance that primals could be summoned? Or were the primal essences trapped there and freed in the explosion? We've never been told. It's been hinted that the Ascians may have had a hand in orchestrating the events somehow, but it's hard to say if that's interpreting the hints correctly.

[Ramen]

Professor Moose is the best.
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[WellFooled]

the Empire had gone up against primals in Othard, and it cost them dearly

I'm curious about this, do you have any more information about this encounter? Obviously the Empire hates Primals, is that because of this lose to them in Othard or does that predate this? Do we know anything about the Primals in Othard, who they are and who summoned them? Isn't Doma a part of Othard, in that case why doesn't Yugiri recognize what a Primal is?