My Eos issue..

[Alice_89th]

While I understand the desire to control Eos completely, I learned to work with this and have come to the conclusion that I'm perfectly fine with it.

This way I can focus on the tank, and Eos will heal either
1. the tank
2. stragglers that I don't have the time for at the moment

When healing gets frantic I usually don't have the time to heal non-tank party members anymore, and Eos does that for me. Lazy? yes. Does it work? most of the time. If I have the time to heal others I do, if not I leave them to Eos or the WHM.

[Ceodore]

That's my point. I'm not saying it's new, or need to be addressed. I am saying that you are asking for the SCH to heal more efficiently when they already heal very efficiently, and you want them to do so with the added benefit of healing more on a single target than a WHM, and at lower MP, more easily. This is an issue because, like I said, WHM already have MP issues so why would you want SCH, who doesn't, to be given leniency in this area? It is some what unfair to think that a SCH needs to heal more easily when their job is already pretty balanced as is. If we were to implement these changes then in late game SCH will be heal spotting better than a WHM, and would be more useful on tank healing (as they already are, slightly). I get Medica/Medica II are beasts but we aren't talking about AoEs, we're talking about single targets.

My main issue with this though is this: SCH are strong enough already, and learning proper control of your pet is what mastering a SCH is all about, so why do you think they need a buff? And why should their job be made easier? Is healing with a SCH that hard? And if you want SCH to get a buff that isn't needed, than tell me what would WHM get buffed to help keep them on par with a SCH? Why would anyone use a WHM end game if a SCH would be so easy to heal bomb with, while not having to worry about their MP or procing Free Cure?

Read the rest of my post instead of the first sentence, I already said that MP issues need to be addressed and even stated what I would like to see White Mages get:

Honestly, I'd much rather see the CD of Shroud of Saints reduced too. (I play all the classes, and this is what I would love to see on CNJ) so that this MP complaint would be pointless.

Shroud of Saints, on a lower CD (I'd like to see 60 seconds) spamming those robust AOE heals would be easy. Or, if you wanted to change to spamming stronger single target healing, Cure II would be a drop in the bucket. Plus, with all the AOE healing, they really should have a means to more often reduce their enmity generation, which has occasionally been a slightly annoying issue in some raids.

EDIT: MAYBE you couldn't SPAM Medica, but continually keeping up Medica 2 and using Cure 2 spam, would not be out of the question.

[Kelya]

Shroud of Saints, on a lower CD (I'd like to see 60 seconds) spamming those robust AOE heals would be easy. Or, if you wanted to change to spamming stronger single target healing, Cure II would be a drop in the bucket. Plus, with all the AOE healing, they really should have a means to more often reduce their enmity generation, which has occasionally been a slightly annoying issue in some raids.

EDIT: MAYBE you couldn't SPAM Medica, but continually keeping up Medica 2 and using Cure 2 spam, would not be out of the question.

Why would you want lower CD and all of this ? Why would you make WHM easier ? Why would you remove the challenge of the job ?

Spamming Cure 2 or "being able to cast more cure 2" is not the WHM job. I don't want a reduced CD to be able to cheat on my MP/treat management, do you ?

This is so much un-needed and would break the job

[Ceodore]

I guess I'm just looking at it too much from the perspective of heavy raiding content where healers on both sides are relying so much on HAVING to have a bard along for songs plus funneling so much effort into piety and still running out of MP mid fight, even when things are going well.

[Kelya]

If things are going well, you have no issues with MP even without stacking Piety on raiding content.

In progression, where you will stack a few more Piety if things go wrong, yeah you'll have but it's progression, it's normal. After that you have 0 issues most of the time so I still don't see the point

[VanilleFang]

None of this really explains why this buff is needed. All I see is SCHs asking for Square to make their job easier. Why though? Is your job really that hard?

[Ceodore]

None of this really explains why this buff is needed. All I see is SCHs asking for Square to make their job easier. Why though? Is your job really that hard?

I ask the same thing about Paladins who want Shield Oath and Sword Oath off GCD without MP consumption. I think it's probably more of an annoyance/convenience thing more than anything else. I also don't see being able to control all aspects of EOS as that big of a buff. You aren't changing her power, or her skills, or stats, or even giving her more HP or a lower CD or anything like that, it's just a behind the scenes technical change to her pet controls. Buffing the Paladin stances would really be a much larger change in the scheme of things if we were able to just switch back and forth at whim. (Which I am not advocating for, just comparing)

[RazeLandale]

I wouldn't say turning auto embrace specifically is that important to me, but turning individual skills on/off auto in general would be nice. I mean, sch puts a nice spin on it, but really they blatantly lifted arcanist from warlock. And warlock could do that. You should be able to turn off ifrits stupid stun or micro contagion without having to micro the other abilities. Or let selene handle the buffs but you can still silence.

[tyybbi997]

I'm actually pretty happy with EoS and how it works. EoS does her job of embracing at will, while I still control her other abilities when needed. Sure she might decide to heal unfortunate DPS or the same target I'm focusing, but for me overhealing is not that much an issue as I primarily use adlo and it still applies galvanize to the target for extra layer of protection. Usually tank "should" be at lowest HP anyway, so my EoS usually focuses the tank with me, and if that's not the case I like the fact that EoS restores injured DPS to safe levels, leaving me more room to do my things (primarily focusing more on tank or dpsing).

[AldoVonAlexandros]

Just put her 30y away from the party, she wont auto heal at that distance, also use interrupt macros and a place-heel macro is always usefull too