My Eos issue..

[Sanguisio]

If you are still hving issues, macro heel to your skills, whenever you ask Eos to move she will cancel cast.

[Kelya]

If you are still hving issues, macro heel to your skills, whenever you ask Eos to move she will cancel cast.

If I remember, canceling Embrace cast will still use the GCD. This means you have 2 choices : let her finish her auto Embrace and then ask her to Embrace or interrupt her and then still wait as if she had casted it and then ask her to Embrace (quite useless).

I was happy when I heard about the Heel/Steady mode but this is only effective on Whispering Dawn because it's a non GCD and after interrupting Embrace you indeed can cast Whispering Dawn. But interrupting Embrace you can't cast another Embrace right away cause the GCD is lost at the second she begins to cast Embrace, you will still need to wait the whole GCD, so better let her finish her first Embrace anyway.

[Bixby]

Correct me if I'm wrong (SCH is nowhere near my main, and I forgot to test last night), but putting the fairy in Steady keeps her from auto-casting until you give her a command (at which point she starts auto-casting), right? If that's the case, rather than (or in addition to) using Heel/Stay/Steady to cancel an auto-Embrace before what you want to cast, couldn't you macro everything to put her back in Steady after the cast?

So adapt all your Embrace (etc.) macros to:

/whatever else you've already got before the pet skill
/pac "Embrace" <t> <wait.3>
/pac "Steady"

Since Embrace is always 3s, she won't have time to start autopilot again.

[Kelya]

Lets say i need to embrace heal one party member and he doesn't need physick. Well i would hit embrace right no prob for that target right? but if shes already in her cast for another party member i have to wait for a delayed heal when i use the physick/embrace macro for a player who needs that.

I would say if a target (except the tanks) only need a Embrace potency as a heal, then in most of the cases, the target should be ok without the Embrace (not healing her) because she's almost full-life. But I say "most of the cases", sometimes you need to have ppl full life and not almost ect... so I understand what is annoying you.

It isn't annoying me because when I'm raiding, the SCH and the WHM share tasks and responsabilities. And most of the times, WHM is in charge of the raid, this means SCH is on tanks and spam Embrace on tanks, and doesn't care about the 10-15% of HP of someone else. If the WHM is in charge, you can stop driving crazy about the auto Embrace and focus on tanks.

I know this isn't resolving your problem but was just a way to show you examples where you can forget about this issue.

And nop Bixby, putting the fairy in Steady mode doesn't keep her from auto Embrace, she will still cast it as soon as you lost a certain amount of HP, so that's not very different from the Obey mode.

[Sanguisio]

Just slap Eos until it listens to you

[Zedd702]

I too am all for an option to turn off auto Embrace. I have my hotbar setup for manual pet commands when I play SCH and when I want her to heal my tank with me casting physick (who thought of that name?), that's what I want, not heal the DPS that lost 100 HP, shortly before my tank was damaged from the initial strike of 3+ mobs.

[Suggestion]

I was starting to think i was missing a very important detail when i started this thread, but you guys have dispelled my worries a bit. I didn't even know some of the stuff that was on here so hey learning experience for me. It seems like most of everyone is not against an option to be able to turn off auto embrace for Eos. But i realize that even with that she will still be behind your heals and you just will notice it a little less.

Now, don't panic! Everyone stay calm.... What if we matched Embrace to the cast and recast time of, you guessed it.. Physick 0.0

please don't burn me >.<

[Zedd702]

I was starting to think i was missing a very important detail when i started this thread, but you guys have dispelled my worries a bit. I didn't even know some of the stuff that was on here so hey learning experience for me. It seems like most of everyone is not against an option to be able to turn off auto embrace for Eos. But i realize that even with that she will still be behind your heals and you just will notice it a little less.

Now, don't panic! Everyone stay calm.... What if we matched Embrace to the cast and recast time of, you guessed it.. Physick 0.0

please don't burn me >.<

Gasoline, torches and fireplace pokers please...

[Kyomih]

I wouldn't use heel or steady in your macros because I like to be able to control her at all times and 100%

What I do however is use stay. I find it more reliable to interrupt whatever she might be casting. This is much more important because it will delay whatever you want here to do much more then just a embrace she just might have cast a split second ago. If you need to rely in THAT split second that embrace is on CD than you did your job as SCH wrong and didn't anticipate well enough.

For example, I have a macro for manually having her cast embrace (ie for Levi mt spam):

/micon "Embrace" pet
/pac stay <me>
/pac "Embrace" <t>

The stay will make sure that even if she is about to move (to heal another group member) she will stope and heal the target I tell her to immediately.

Same for when I need her to cast a buffed up aoe for those special occasions:

/micon Rouse
/ac Rouse <me>
/pac "stay" <me>
/pac "Fey Illumination" <me>
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <me>

Another macro I find very handy is this one:

/micon "heel" pet
/pac "Place" <me>
/pac "Heel" <me>

It allows me to have her follow me but also the same time I can place her if needed. Frees up space and lets me control her positioning much better.
I also ALWAYS like to position her (unless in movement heavy fights such as T11 Phases). It means I place her closer to the tank so she generally focuses her auto embrace on him and not others.

[Donjo]

A. You use the macro Embrace & Physick.

This is actually one of the worst uses of macro a SCH can perform. The most flexible thing a SCH can do is apply a heal of acceptable potency to two people at once. This is what makes their lack of AOE healing potency compared to WHM okay! This macro takes a class famous for their flexibility and greatly lessens it. Letting Eos do her own thing while you heal the Tank is often the same as letting her get the rest of the party up whenever damage hits them. Besides, she tends to focus on party members with less health unless she's the one with less health, so a healthy rest-of-party will end up getting the Tank embraced anyway.

B. You use Embrace only to find out that Eos already cast it 1.1 seconds earlier. It takes 2 secs to cast and 5 total from cast to recast to cast it again. (tongue tied)

Yep, same rules as players, but the point below helps with that I think. This problem does only affect Embrace, however. The stay command will always allow you to cancel an Embrace and then immediately use a cooldown.

C. Correct me if im wrong, It seems if Eos casts Embrace on a player you literally have to spam it to make sure she targets your target you want to heal next. (im sorry if that didn't make sense)

I believe Eos follows the same concepts of being able to queue up a GCD skill slightly by hitting it up to a second before it's actually available to ensure it's used the millisecond it becomes so. Either way, if you really think X person should be healed with Embrace next, Eos will agree with you in most situations. She's not quite that dumb

D. Your focusing tank heals and she heals randoms. As I understand it, WHM is more suited to heal everyone else and SCH are suited to focus the tanks. Bless you WHM, bless you.

One, every heal helps. Eos will never overheal unless some other heal hits her intended target during an Embrace cast. Two, Eos healing randoms is a saving grace more in 4 mans or double scholar action than it is in a SCH/WHM combo.