Just Curious why SE never took a vote from players on what we want in Cash Shop?

[Aegis]

So really.....you surely have better things to do then complain about this and if you dont have anything better to do then maybe you might want to reposition what is important and what is not
Mei

What are your thoughts on people that have nothing better to do than complain about people who have nothing better to do than complain about this?

[WHS]

When I first started this thread it was suppose to be about us having a right to vote. Something we in America are quite familiar with I am sure. I never in a million years figured players don't want or need any rights such as been suggested in this thread. I never imagine this turning into a whine fest about having to buy items when I clearly understand you do not have to buy. The main concern of this thread was if we the players might be given a chance to maturely and intelligently vote for what we do and do not want to see in a cash shop. A consensus on items would be appreciated.

If the majority of players wants special minions locked behind a paywall then I would concede and let it go. Of course I have the option of not liking that decision and just not subbing. But this thread was never about not subbing or being forced to pay to a cash shop. It's about voting. Please try your best to get back on topic and focus. I do think it's important that we look at the topic from that angle. It does in fact seem to be the least hostile approach and one SE has used from time to time in the past. I for one would like this game to continue to grow and succeed. Are players concerned that without a cash shop this game will go bust?

[Sparktacus]

Because the players don't always know what's best. It would most likely turn into demands for p2w items.

[Vondoomervil]

I love the white knights calling on how the cash shop is here for:

- Make more money for the game developing.
- Stop possible increases on monthly fee.

It never did cause it knew the answer, most of this community, most of it, by a landslide, would be against the cash shop we have now, and probably would be half and half on the fact of having a cash shop at all (this outside the account services as retainers, fantasia, name change and server transfers which are OK.) problem is, the actual condition of a very weak cash shop that is being made up on scrapping content off to make it come alive, a frankenstein cash shop.

The community wanted the cash shop. Show me the proof that the majority was/is against it? And please, Just because someone disagrees with you, Doesn't mean they are a 'White Knight'. Grow up and stop throwing terms around like a spoilt teenager.

[Edellis]

okay, hold up. I've actually never even looked at the cash shop in this game.


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I mean, i really do want that Yda minion...not enough to ever pay for it though....hmmmmmm....


Meh, i'm fine with it. As long as nothing I want ever crops up in that shop, i'll continue to just be neutral on it.

[Zephyr-Umbra]

The community wanted the cash shop. Show me the proof that the majority was/is against it? And please, Just because someone disagrees with you, Doesn't mean they are a 'White Knight'. Grow up and stop throwing terms around like a spoilt teenager.

The community did not want the cash shop, they wanted fantasia potions and server transfers, a paid service most online MMO's allow without requiring a cash shop as a medium.

Though i do find it amusing you call that person out for using the term 'white knight' yet call him a spoiled teenager in response which is an ad hominem in of itself. Please grow up yourself if you cannot articulate a proper response to an argument ongoing. And as for the whole "Show me proof." part of your argument, that is a fallacy also as the requirement of factual evidence is on the accuser, not the accused. You cannot just say "Show me proof" when you have none for his argument being false, that is not how discussions work.

Edit: Also terms=/=term, implying he 'threw' around several terms besides the singular one you called him out for. Please use the correct statement.

[Korilynn]

Because, what if the popular vote was "Paid for High Level Gear"? Could you imagine what you'd see on the forums?

[HeroSamson]

The community did not want the cash shop, they wanted fantasia potions and server transfers

uh no they didn't I read a crap ton of comments they wanted cash shop for fantasia's and they also want a name changing card.

"Sell Fantasia on the Mogstation" <--- google it

"Namingway Card items" another topic

[Zephyr-Umbra]

uh no they didn't I read a crap ton of comments they wanted cash shop for fantasia's and they also want a name changing card.
"Sell Fantasia on the Mogstation" <--- google it
"Namingway Card items" another topic

You seem to be missing my point entirely, People did not specifically ask for the cash shop, they wanted a place to buy things like fantasia potions and sever transfers and name changed like you stated, but as i clearly pointed out they wanted those things like a paid add on service on the website, they did not want a cash shop that sold exclusive minions or mounts, just a place where character essentials like stated above could be purchased. However you seem to assume that people wanting those things explicitly states they wanted some form of cash shop, many other games offer these services, like name changes and server transfers as a paid service on their websites, for a cost of course but they were always a separate service from things like in game exclusivity items.

Services like those should be standard practice by now and people in no way asked for a cash shop, all that was mentioned was that they were willing to pay for the ability to have access to such things.

[MeiUshu]

where did you read a complain on my part is beyond my understanding, I am asking why on Earth people are afraid of..a game? is that a complain ? no. Are you complaining because then the question is on you. Same for my thoughts, when you discuss is in no way a complain otherwise forums could well cearse to exist in regards that anything can be seen as a complain, make sure you do know the meaning of complaining vs discussing and exchanging views and opinions there is a huge different, or are you complaining about people that are not of your opinion ???

Mei