CS Complaint Threads Need to Stop

[Magis]

You've never been on a game's official forums before, have ya? People feel they need to make ~their~ thoughts known in their own thread versus just adding to another, since they are a special snowflake that needs validation!

Ummmm

How are they special snowflakes if it's a group of people pissed off? It's funny that the same phrases/memes/w.e keep getting regurgitated over and over.

[Edeline]

You've never been on a game's official forums before, have ya? People feel they need to make ~their~ thoughts known in their own thread versus just adding to another, since they are a special snowflake that needs validation!

Imo the reason of countless threads is because your post gets lost on the active spam and no one notices your voice. Making your own thread gets your opinion on top of everyone else there, plus the flame that follows for making a new thread lol

[NoF2P]

I was contemplating in buying the artbook when it went on sale, but decided not to get it yet. I'm also a sucker for buying artbooks.

It's a very good artbook. It's almost like a reference, and full of comments by the artists.

[RaquelleAvarosa]

You aren't paying for the minion though, you are paying for a physical item and the minion is thrown in as a bonus, an incentive for you to buy the OST. Heck, the basic fact that the Windup Dalamud code expired on the end of the year that the OST was released shows that. If SE was "selling" the Dalamud minion, they'd leave the code to be active forever.

lets say then, a guy who really wants (and only wants) the bahamut minion, buys the OST but simply threw it away after redeeming the minion code, its now simply a $50 minion, no different from going into Mogstation and paying $50 outright for the minion.

I'm not sure why those against the inclusion of paid vanity item are perfectly OK with another indirectly paid vanity item that is also behind a pay-wall and absolutely unattainable in game unless you fork out cash for it.

If i'm not mistaken, the whole argument against micro-transactions is that players are already paying a sub so they should be able to have access to all of the game's content so why are they perfectly OK that multiple minions and vanity gear are actually locked behind a paywall (indirect) and are not accessible in-game without spending money to buy merchandise.

This is what perplexes me and this is what convinced me that those against micro-transactions are actually against it in form but not in principle.

[Magis]

lets say then, a guy who really wants the bahamut minion, buys the OST and simply chucked it away, its now a $30 minion.

I'm not sure why those against the inclusion of paid vanity item are perfectly OK with another indirectly paid vanity item that is also behind a pay-wall and absolutely unattainable in game unless you fork out cash for it.

Cool? That still doesn't change what SE gave the minion for. It's like saying the Happy Meal toys are $6 at McDonalds when it's not, the whole combo is. The purchaser still got an OST for that $30, they decided to not use it.

[Edeline]

lets say then, a guy who really wants the bahamut minion, buys the OST and simply chucked it away, its now a $30 minion.

I'm not sure why those against the inclusion of paid vanity item are perfectly OK with another indirectly paid vanity item that is also behind a pay-wall and absolutely unattainable in game unless you fork out cash for it.

You're comparing buying physical merchandise that you receive with a bonus minion with virtual items that aren't necessary to be thrown in the cash shop.

[RaquelleAvarosa]

Cool? That still doesn't change what SE gave the minion for. It's like saying the Happy Meal toys are $6 at McDonalds when it's not, the whole combo is. The purchaser still got an OST for that $30, they decided to not use it.

It still doesn't change the fact that there are already vanity items behind a pay-wall.

your happy meals analogy makes no sense, we're not talking about the value of an item here.

You're comparing buying physical merchandise that you receive with a bonus minion with virtual items that aren't necessary to be thrown in the cash shop.

Physical merchandise doesn't need bonus in-game items either, it is not necessary at all.

Physical merchandise or not, there are people who buys it only for the bonus item and not for the physical merchandise, so how is it different from outright paying money for the "bonus" and not receiving a physical item? is the physical item here the crucial factor? and if all micro-transactions came with a physical item, all's good now?

[Duuude007]

No, they don't, people play paying MMOs for 2 reason, apart from the quality of the game of course, and these are, better community than f2p games, and no pay-walls to have things others have, vanity or not.

Ehhh, where are you getting this assertion, WOW?

[RaquelleAvarosa]

so I guess I've found a perfect solution for players and for Square Enix with regard to micro-transactions

Simply release all micro-transaction vanity items as bonuses of physical merchandise, sell a Sleipnir figurine at $49.99 and it comes with an in-game Sleipnir mount, buy a FF14 Wedding catalogue book for $49.99 and get a Gold wedding plan ticket etc

[Edeline]

Physical merchandise doesn't need bonus in game items either, it is not necessary at all.

Physical merchandise or not, there are people who buys it only for the bonus item and not for the physical merchandise, so how is it different from outright paying money for the "bonus" and not receiving a physical item? is the physical item here the crucial factor? and if all micro-transactions came with a physical item, all's good now?

It's called bonus for a reason. You're not buying the minion. If people choose to buy the merchandise for its bonus, that's their own choice, and not the indended sale.