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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zophar View Post
    What content is this that ever requires paeon? If the answer is Final coil, then I'll have to ask you to forgive my ignorance as I have not participated in it yet. In any case, short of final coil, there is nothing, not a single bit of content in the entire game in which a job with invigorate ever needs paeon unless A: it's a giant AoE fest (like pre echo t4) or B: you have screwed up, either by dying, or by not making correct use out of invigorate. Even in the incredibly TP intensive T8, invigorate is more than sufficient to get you through the entire fight. Really, the only jobs that should ever -need- goad are mnk, pld, and war.
    Final Coil is exactly where this, and just about everything else, really matters...

    Sidenote: my Bard bleeds TP faster than my PLD and WAR (60 spam, 70 every 8 moves/per proc and 2 80s per 7 moves [66.25] >> 70-60-60 spam avg [63.33]; more so in multi-target/multi-DoT situations. The ability for the Nin to goad a bard 2/3s of the time and self 1/3 of the time [2 casters] is about the only way you're going to skip Paeon altogether over a 11+ minute fight. Otherwise, that Bard is going to be Paeoning himself not long after the Monk needs it, and well before the rest.

    [Even a Monk will only be at 55.77 avg cost w/o Fracture, which you can modify to 64.86 with GL (no bonus SS)). Though it would be rare to find a Monk w/o SS, they really wouldn't be depleting any faster than a Bard getting plentiful Straighter Shot procs).

    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    SS would be more beneficial if there are no mana issues but it still won't touch CHR or DET's affect on their DPS. With how they do DPS they'll never value SS until an inherent change in their mechanics.
    Or if SS itself was changed, such as by affecting Aetherflow CD... among others... *prays*
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 12-03-2014 at 03:49 PM.