Which classes do you think need adjustments?

[Skeith-Adeline]

With the DRG, WHM(though minor) and Ninja changes coming soon, what other DPS classes do you think need to be adjusted and why?

For SMN, Energy drain perhaps giving a little more MP (shouldn't be an unlimited resource class with their utility).

For BLM, just a way of not wasting Firestarter procs. Storing a firestarter proc would be cool.

[Wizarus]

What SMN utility? If anything BLM has more utility with best crowd control/destruction, Apocastis, Lethargy, it still gets EYE and Virus, and has 2 of the best defensive cooldowns in the game. Oh and BLM DPS is higher. Honestly the only thing summoner has over BLM is battle raise, and battle raise is overrated, especially in later content. If 2 healers cant do it, you might as well just wipe most of the time.

[ViviAnimus]

Black Mage doesn't need anything, it's fine the way it is now. Summoner's DPS is more than fine, just the MP issue needs to be addressed. Dragoon needs a buff and TP cost for Ninja needs to be higher. /stopmaking these threads. There are literally so many of them right now, why make one?

[Sunako]

SMN need Spellspeed adjustments because we are forced using it. Even our best in slot gear have +100 spellspeed. It is like same if we throw away 15 int compared other classes. And before you get that 135 weapon(that have 0 accuracy) you want use that 130 weapon that have 51 accuracy and 36 spellspeed, you need stack even more spellspeed if you do not want accuracy 2 be much over capped.

[Skeith-Adeline]

What SMN utility? If anything BLM has more utility with best crowd control/destruction, Apocastis, Lethargy, it still gets EYE and Virus, and has 2 of the best defensive cooldowns in the game. Oh and BLM DPS is higher. Honestly the only thing summoner has over BLM is battle raise, and battle raise is overrated, especially in later content. If 2 healers cant do it, you might as well just wipe most of the time.

Their greatest utility is that they can move. We can't.

[Defteros]

Their greatest utility is that they can move. We can't.

I beg to differ.
we can move as much as a summoner can.
you just have to learn how to.

[Skeith-Adeline]

I beg to differ.
we can move as much as a summoner can.
you just have to learn how to.

We can move if we preemptively hold our procs. It's fallacious to think that we've the same movement ability as them.

[Defteros]

We can move if we preemptively hold our procs. It's fallacious to think that we've the same movement ability as them.

you don't have to save procs for movements.
there is a reason we have swiftcast, surecast, and even Manawall and Manaward.

[ViviAnimus]

Surecast isn't a move to counter movement, mate. I can only think of one intstance where Manaward might be useful to counter movement. Not one for Manawall. This is Final Coil of course.

[Sunako]

you don't have to save procs for movements.
there is a reason we have swiftcast, surecast, and even Manawall and Manaward.

Yah and Aetherial Manipulation.

In topic: Storing procs would be kinda op in pvp. They nerfed swiftcast in pvp for a reason BLM burst was over top.