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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateAoe2 View Post
    Inventory space was not the reason why PS3 is limited. It's already been said that, by adding more inventory space to everyone, it would pose a problem on the server, resulting in longer load times (via teleports, retainers....think 1.0? Maybe not that hard.)
    Take this with a grain of salt but it was within the last 2 or so months they said that we would not have more inventory space due to data size online. There was also an interview they asked what they meant by that and basically pointed blame at SONY not the consoles, saying it had to do with the online storage allotted them by Sony. The cloud storage limit basically from what I got out of it.
    I figured it would be all over here so I didn't think to remember who said it, so it is what it is.


    Edit: but yeah they also said it would pose longer loading etc as above
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  2. #82
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    ReplicaX's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Like FFXI TP value is also fed to our client but isn't displayed, so it was indeed SE's choice to not have it displayed on our UI. I'm sure you think it's a PS3 limitation though.
    Alerting PT members your TP isn't really a concern anymore in XI. TP in XIV is much different than an XI system of building it. Your past practice point is rather weak in reference to this game and also it's faster paced battle system with TP having greater importance.

    You cannot deny the truth that the memory limitations of the PS3 are holding back how many active UI objects can be displayed. It's all been said, just not in big bold letters and simple English. Which is the question I even asked for the Live Letter to be more specific and knew wouldn't be answered.

    You can't even call me ignorant about it so much.

    As I even suggested on this forum to give the player the option to display what they need for the UI and set a system limit of how many elements can be displayed based on the resources they require.

    But by all means continue to label my comments.
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  3. #83
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    This is adorable. I can't actually believe people here are arguing if the PS3 is a limitation or not.

    The Devs said they'll be dropping PS3 support sometime in the close future and will focus on the PC and PS4 too.

    That, in itself, should be enough proof.
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  4. #84
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    I think people are confused about what "dropping support" means. Dropping support does not mean, "you can't play the game on this platform anymore." Dropping support means "you can play up until a certain point, but after that expansions and client features added will ONLY be available for X and Y players. You will not have access to these features/gear/level cap increase/quests/etc."

    It's not always hardware/software limitations that come into play. It can also be population that devs use to decide if they will drop support for a certain expansion/update. For example, the playerbase of FFXI utilizing PS2 outside of Japan is so small, there would be no financial gain to releasing an expansion for those people. If I recall, the latest expansion was not available to FFXI PS2 users outside of Japan for this very reason, and it was also the last expansion to be available to PS2 users in Japan. In essence, SE has "dropped support" for PS2 because now features will be limited for those who continue to play on that console.
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  5. #85
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    The zone sizes are definitely affected by this.

    Even if the zones were bigger would SE utilise exploration as gameplay meaning you'd actually have to be afraid of free roaming mobs?
    That sounds exciting but I'm afraid SE has only heard the part "we want bigger zones".

    I don't think bigger zones by themselves add that much to the game if their size isn't used as a tool for level design.
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  6. #86
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    I don't like so much the attitude of "my console/pc/whathever" is master race, and your one needs be trashed.

    The only PS3 limit that XIV almost reached is the number of objects that may be displayed at same time, and this is the only thing I know is confirmed, you can check the thread talking about the visualization of the TP bar.

    All graphical differences some of you provided, are only rendering differences of the same object, and it is quite pointless (and so much obvious) to say an 8-years old graphic hardware is less 'cool' than 2014's one. If now you play on better hardware does not means the world must trash the old one and make the game matching all the bells of YOUR hardware.

    SE already stated they will think about PS3 when it will be the time it really makes not possible to do some things they want to do for the game. There is no need to bash something you hate because you hate.
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fellisin View Post
    There is a reason it's that cheap. Mainly because it's coming to the end of its lifespan as a console. If the console starts to hold back what the dev's want to do, they'll be stupid NOT to drop it.
    They would have done it already. Obviously.

    Forum white knights they are sooo stronk!!! "stop ps3 support or I quit" but yeah, wont happen. Addictedd!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    They would have done it already. Obviously.

    Forum white knights they are sooo stronk!!! "stop ps3 support or I quit" but yeah, wont happen. Addictedd!!!!!
    No. They wouldn't have. In interviews Yoshi-P has explicitly stated they're holding onto it now but after the expansion they will begin evaluating dropping support. This is straight from the horses mouth the lead producer of the game. Even at the Vegas Fan Festival when someone asked about our chocobos doing a fat chocobo summon Yoshi was cracking jokes about how the ps3 couldn't handle it. The only reason the ps3 got a version of the game is because they were promised one 5 years ago and square didn't want to fail on it's promise. Nothing more. Nothing less. Not a tacit agreement that the ps3 isn't a limitation in any way.

    You can't call people here white knights when they are simply repeating things the dev team itself has said. Ps3 support will go away someday and it will likely be before the 2nd expansion.
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  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    I don't like so much the attitude of "my console/pc/whathever" is master race, and your one needs be trashed. There is no need to bash something you hate because you hate.
    If you read this thread thoroughly, you will surprisingly see it's quite civil in discussion.

    Most ppl are just stating their concern that they don't want to be held back by limitations in general. This is to include separation of platforms and their capability of QoL upgrades.

    This is due to the past practice with XI. Poor statements by SE with little details (TP of PT members response) as well as Yoshi guaranteeing Heavensward for PS3. However, future content being uncertain.

    With Heavensward months away, I am not surprised this thread came up.
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  10. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeckyl_Tesla View Post
    The Devs said they'll be dropping PS3 support sometime in the close future and will focus on the PC and PS4 too.

    That, in itself, should be enough proof.
    Where is this proof? Link?
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