Alternatives to "nerfing" ninja

[Jeckyl_Tesla]

The question being raised by any reasonable poster is not 'by how much', it's 'is it even necessary based on perceived facts in the game?'

DRG absolutely, certainly needed a buff. A great number of NIN players are former DRGs who got sick of being considered nonviable and secondary by their raid groups and being outshined by MNKs, because, well...look at the parse numbers, look at the sim numbers, look at the actual content participation. Everyone runs double MNK because it gives you Dragon Kick, The Good(tm) Version of Mantra, and The Best Melee DPS Ever. Also you don't need a healer babysitting you with Stoneskin so T12+ bosses don't instantly kill you with partywide magic damage.

I have no complaints about DRGs being buffed. They truly need it and I welcome it.


The problem about NINs, is as the Dev team themselves have stated, they wanted their DPS to be lower than that of a MNK due to Trick Attack alone. That move alone, simply means that NIN should never, ever, be higher DPS than a MNK (or I daresay, a DRG. But less so a DRG, due to Disembowel helping the BRD so much)


With Trick Attack, NIN parses higher than MNK. Yeah, sure, Mantra is great, and always will. But although Dragonkick is great in this coil, it wasn't that amazing in the last two. It was decent, but it wasn't one of the things that made MNK viable.

Trick attack, so along as the NIN parses decently, will always make a NIN viable. Always. 10% DMG, every 60 seconds is HUGE and always will be.

Also this 1k word bullshit needs to end.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-get-a-buff...

This thread has examples of that a very skilled Dragoon can do. T13 has also been downed with a DPS set up of 3 DRG, 1 BRD.

I fully support a buff to Dragoon. However the truth is a highly skilled Dragoon can deal comparable Damage to Ninja (though still behind Monk.) Dragoon is getting buffed, and in a way to remove some of the skill cap on it's higher tier DPS, so it's not outside of the realm of possibility to say post buff Dragoon can out DPS Ninja.

DRG is by far the worst DPS in the game. Not unviable though. I know that fully well. But the problem is, classes are not really balanced for what the top end DPSers can do. (Though I could be wrong) It's great that 0.01% of the DRG community are skilled enough to pull those sort of numbers. But that requires some intense sort of knowledge and skill of the class to do. The average joe still needs more unfortunately.

I will however, not be convinced of anything until I see the true numbers on my screen. That was my point.

I see that a lot of these forums. People making grandiose comments when they actually have nothing to back it up.