Urgently Change your Approach SE

[Parz3val]

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Much of this is my own personal opinion, I urge you please look at the bigger picture of what I'm trying to say rather than nitpick examples from my personal disappointment with SE's developmental choices.

Just about every patch has come with some seriously major sting which keeps harming much of the player base's opinion of you & slowly teaches them to have very low expectations or no longer trust you.

You need to be Very Careful here-forward, SE.

Between Atma (FATE Grind), Hunts, Personal Housing, Win-Trader's Den & more... you're often leaving many players feeling you're either putting very little effort in or that everything you implement is like an after-thought.

I feel like nearly all players would be much happier with you if you didn't feel the need to "rush out" content. Instead of using excuses like "we can't fix Chocobo's during Queue or Clipping Issues without sacrificing manpower for New Content", you should SLOW YOURSELVES DOWN & win-win by giving us both a) what we want & b) better devised implementations.

Take more time on the drawing board or polling your players or saying yes than worrying you have to blitz content on us only to fail because you didn't pause & think "players will hate to FATE Grind subject to low True RNG" or "players on PS3 will be pissed when they're jacked out of credit for Hunts b/c they're invisible" or "you know, we've had 9 months, we should probably clarify about Personal Housing being identical to FC Housing & the pricing actually being virtually the same".

Also things like Chocobo Training, such promise but you made it into a few-click thing even though the videos caused many to presume it would be a fun interactive mini-game... resulting in disappointment.

Or how about Desynthesis which was described as a fun, skill-based system which turned out to be... yet another few-click wonder which took no skill whatsoever.

In other words, please treat our expectations appropriately & be more careful to not make empty promises in doing so.

Don't tell us to look forward to things if you're not going to deliver, if the system is going to be a lackluster point-and-click, or when you pitch something as new & exciting but in actuality it is merely a rehash of prior content.

Instead of failing us, you could be winning by pressing harder more for the things we want with your time (like Musketeer) than the things we don't or didn't ask for.

As well, you could be much more efficient if you make the things we do want not so unnecessarily complicated (Chocobo Dyeing). I think the dyeing system is neat personally, but I would've much rather taken a simplified version if it meant you put more of your chips into ensuring Hunts worked or current systems were more interesting (FATE's) or implementing more things we've asked for (like Individual Gardening Access for All).

Idk... this' a huge rant but honestly you guys worry me with the path you're spiraling yourselves down. I loved this game in the beginning but you keep mistreating it & taking 1 step forward/3 back.

Seriously... just don't screw up on the Gold Saucer. Make it rich, don't make it watered down or a point-and-click failure. Things will turn bad to worse if you mess that up.

Also, if this really is a theme park MMO in your minds... STOP burdening us with things like Atma (improve the drop rate already) or the high cost of Personal Housing. Make the game more enjoyable & fun, less dull & encumbering please.

I urge you to reevaluate your design philosophy Yoshi; I dare you to dig much, much harder into what your player-base wants rather than presuming we'll enjoy things like FATE grinding or your version of rehashed Personal Housing.

Whenever I think about SE's approach to releasing new content I can't help but feel like a horse on a carrot, except everytime I finally come within reach of the carrot the rider instead feeds me some rancid, rotting eggplant or something and then says "Sorry I couldn't give you that carrot, server limitations and all. You'll get the carrot eventually though, please look forward to it".

[Musashidon]

i personally am fine with how things are.

housing is fine.

atma is fine (but will also be nerfed later)

and gold saucer will be fine just lower you expectations they can't EVER hit it no matter what it will not be ff7 gold saucer it will be ff14 gold saucer no matter what they do you will be disappointed in some way.

I feel like nearly all players would be much happier with you if you didn't feel the need to "rush out" content. Instead of using excuses like "we can't fix Chocobo's during Queue or Clipping Issues without sacrificing manpower for New Content", you should SLOW YOURSELVES DOWN & win-win by giving us both a) what we want & b) better devised implementations.

also this is wrong nearly all? so you know how over 500k people feel? i call bs.

also clipping isn't do to man power it's do to either you accept it or we lose 90% of hairstyles and the only ones we get will be bland and boring.

[ziddyt]

i personally am fine with how things are.

housing is fine.

atma is fine (but will also be nerfed later)

and gold saucer will be fine just lower you expectations they can't EVER hit it no matter what it will not be ff7 gold saucer it will be ff14 gold saucer no matter what they do you will be disappointed in some way.




also this is wrong nearly all? so you know how over 500k people feel? i call bs.

also clipping isn't do to man power it's do to either you accept it or we lose 90% of hairstyles and the only ones we get will be bland and boring.

Chugging the kool-aid by the gallon

[Elim]

just lower you expectations .

This is good advice. Lower your expectations. Even better, expect the worst possible outcome so that you're surprised and happy when it's not that bad.

Despite how pessimistic my advice sounds, I'm actually pretty darn happy with the game right now. I'll never, ever like FATES though. Ever.

[Musashidon]

This is good advice. Lower your expectations. Even better, expect the worst possible outcome so that you're surprised and happy when it's not that bad.

Despite how pessimistic my advice sounds, I'm actually pretty darn happy with the game right now. I'll never, ever like FATES though. Ever.

xD i meant for gold saucer silly.

everyone is like how much like ff7 gold saucer will it be like. heck even i am like that i know i will be disapointed when i find out i can't ride that ferris wheel in the art they drew.

i mean will everyone be up in arms if we aren't given an arena to fight in like ff7? will people be mad if they don't have a haunted house?

the more you expect it to be like ff7 the higher your chances of being upset it isn't gets bigger.

[Kaethra]

atma is fine (but will also be nerfed later)

You really think Atma is fine?

Would you do that 10-15 hour Fate grind for no reward at the end?

If the answer is no, then the Atma quest is NOT fine.

That's the question the Developers should ALWAYS ask themselves when adding new content: "Would we or our players do the content for the sake of doing it, even if there is no reward?"

If the answer is yes, add it in.
If the answer is no, redo the content.

They seriously need to get away from the idea of having timesinks for the sake of timesinks. Atmas are a prime example of what NOT to do. Where's the challenge in it? If I can complete one FATE, I can complete five, I can complete ten, or hundred, or a thousand. Doing them over and over ad nauseum is not fun nor challenging.

The time spent getting Atma isn't a problem. I don't care if they double or triple the time. If its fun, its worth it. But there is a serious problem with a game when you have to sit there for 10-15 hours (spent at once or spent broken up over a couple of ssessions) not having fun.

But if you want to prove me wrong. Feel free to do a 500 Fate grind (without the Atma quest) and post it on youtube or twitch. We'd have found one person in all of AAR that likes doing that.

[Fated]

As long as Gold Saucer comes with a date with Barrett, it'll be everything I want.

[Cidel]

As long as Gold Saucer comes with a date with Barrett, it'll be everything I want.

Sorry, due to server limitations you'll get a date with this guy instead:

[Musashidon]

Sorry, due to server limitations you'll get a date with this guy instead:

and this is why the forums is a joke. someones so mad that make childish jokes and antics at anything someone says.

[Cidel]

and this is why the forums is a joke. someones so mad that make childish jokes and antics at anything someone says.

So... I can't reply to a joke with another joke on these forums?

...Seems like there's actually another problem with these forums...