Is the Ninja nerf really needed?

[Fynlar]

Never had any problems dealing with mechanics as monk and still coming out on top, cept for T9 where SMN beat me.
Dealing with GL is actually never a problem for any decent monk, granted you drop GL sometimes but only when you are really forced to do so and there is maybe 1-2 situations where you can't just Perfect balance it.

Well, I have encountered the issue way more than you have, and Perfect Balance is not up nearly often enough as needed to counter it.

I don't encounter it at all on NIN, which is likely a big part of why I do way better on it. Like I said, for MNK where a brief intercession in the fight would result in lost GL stacks, for a NIN it's just an opportunity to recast theirs.

[Aiurily]

correlating effort/skill ceiling with maximum damage potential is bad game design imo, especially when said ceilings aren't very difficult to reach or heavily execution intensive

[Elazu]

This is a good thing i pull off 1100k and 1200 with my nin my dragoon i do sometimes 1000 or 1100 at times but nin a lot more dragoon is strength nin is Dexterity they need the nerf

It all makes sense to me now!

[Alistaire]

It all makes sense to me now!

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[ShanaShirayuki]

Well, I have encountered the issue way more than you have, and Perfect Balance is not up nearly often enough as needed to counter it.

I don't encounter it at all on NIN, which is likely a big part of why I do way better on it. Like I said, for MNK where a brief intercession in the fight would result in lost GL stacks, for a NIN it's just an opportunity to recast theirs.

So you're admitting that you don't know as much about MNK as you implied earlier then.

[coldreactive]

I want them to nerf its aggro generation, I don't care if DPS is nerfed.

[cookiecutter]

Yeah it sucks that dragoon is the only melee dps class that has threat reduction skill. I don't know how many times as monk I've pulled off mediocre tanks in CT and duty roulette which made my dps plummet. Range dps don't have to worry about this since they can quell in the beginning with no dps loss.

[Noshpan]

That chart was all shades wrong. No Dragoon would ever be top DPS because the vast majority of them of them would be on the ground... dead.

Initially, the developers think within their own little box, which is why developers will get surprised when players use classes in a manner that they did not expect. It happens (had happened & will continue to happen) in MMOs plenty of times. So, when that happens, they go back and recreate it, even creating ideal scenarios for that happens, and they base their findings off of that.

Then classes get tweaked, players adapt to the changes or move on to the next Face Roll Class.

[Hollowed]

The part about this update that has me surprised the most is how many people honestly did not see this ninja nerf coming, I mean, wow. I knew this job was getting nerfed after I saw the patch notes before we could even log in :x

More important than the Ninja nerf though, stoneskin 2!!!! wohoooooooooooo

[Zumi]

The part about this update that has me surprised the most is how many people honestly did not see this ninja nerf coming, I mean, wow. I knew this job was getting nerfed after I saw the patch notes before we could even log in :x

More important than the Ninja nerf though, stoneskin 2!!!! wohoooooooooooo

Like me and many other people said already Ninja isn't even top dps in the current version the top dps still goes to monk. People will go back to stacking 2 monks for their melee slots if ninja is nerfed so much.