Is the Ninja nerf really needed?

[Sarynth]

Just my two cents but I always thought having to memorize and use ninjutsu properly was enough to balance ninjas high damage.

[Adrian74]

Just my two cents but I always thought having to memorize and use ninjutsu properly was enough to balance ninjas high damage.

And you're right... Because of it some lazy ninjas use macros. But believe me, it takes A LOT to cast mudras using a macro, if you set 0.5 timers, and you can't set 0.4 or such, it failures... So those lazy nin end, like all lazy players after all, dealing less damage overall.

[Sessurea]

Just my two cents but I always thought having to memorize and use ninjutsu properly was enough to balance ninjas high damage.

Are you trying to say that's hard or something? Confused...

[Riardon]

Happy to see Dragoons back on the track. Remember that classes supposed to be equal. You choose the class you like the most not because their dps output is greater. If nerf is needed to make Ninja equal to the others then yes nerf him. People see the word nerf and imagine that their class will be useless. That's not the case. We don't want a game with imbalanced and OP classes. We are supposed to choose what we like and not what dps the most.

[Fynlar]

If a MNK was being beaten by a NIN it was a bad MNK, or the MNK had more mechanics to deal with. End of story.

No kidding. Guess what is often the case in FFXIV, and guess what also doesn't affect NIN nearly as much?

[Atreides]

No kidding. Guess what is often the case in FFXIV, and guess what also doesn't affect NIN nearly as much?

Never had any problems dealing with mechanics as monk and still coming out on top, cept for T9 where SMN beat me.
Dealing with GL is actually never a problem for any decent monk, granted you drop GL sometimes but only when you are really forced to do so and there is maybe 1-2 situations where you can't just Perfect balance it.

[Fynlar]

Never had any problems dealing with mechanics as monk and still coming out on top, cept for T9 where SMN beat me.
Dealing with GL is actually never a problem for any decent monk, granted you drop GL sometimes but only when you are really forced to do so and there is maybe 1-2 situations where you can't just Perfect balance it.

Well, I have encountered the issue way more than you have, and Perfect Balance is not up nearly often enough as needed to counter it.

I don't encounter it at all on NIN, which is likely a big part of why I do way better on it. Like I said, for MNK where a brief intercession in the fight would result in lost GL stacks, for a NIN it's just an opportunity to recast theirs.

[ShanaShirayuki]

Well, I have encountered the issue way more than you have, and Perfect Balance is not up nearly often enough as needed to counter it.

I don't encounter it at all on NIN, which is likely a big part of why I do way better on it. Like I said, for MNK where a brief intercession in the fight would result in lost GL stacks, for a NIN it's just an opportunity to recast theirs.

So you're admitting that you don't know as much about MNK as you implied earlier then.

[Aiurily]

correlating effort/skill ceiling with maximum damage potential is bad game design imo, especially when said ceilings aren't very difficult to reach or heavily execution intensive

[Elazu]

This is a good thing i pull off 1100k and 1200 with my nin my dragoon i do sometimes 1000 or 1100 at times but nin a lot more dragoon is strength nin is Dexterity they need the nerf

It all makes sense to me now!