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  1. #1
    Player
    Synestra's Avatar
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    Nel Synestra
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    It's a must, at least in Frontline.

    - Auto-ability to permanently run faster than everyone, with no condition (unlike Bard).
    - Melee class that can do good ranged attack, Throwing Daggers, Raiton.
    - Melee class that can do magic attack, Raiton, an instant skill, as powerful as Fester and Flare, with very easy 3 steps combo (all instant abilities).
    - Hide, almost impossible to defend unless you want to spam some AoE all the time.
    - Can interrupt spell casting without any ability, just keep doing their super fast attacks and it's an auto-interruption.
    Wait till you see NIN with pocket healer, NIN+Healer can pretty much duo 4+ players even if one of those are healer. Currently enjoying nin in pvp alot but also i totally understand if they get nerfed in there, atm its only class i know that can easily solo 2+ players even if those are tank or healer(well maybe not 2 healers unless they are derps).
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    Mardel's Avatar
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    Eru Meru
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 55
    Well to those bringing pvp into the reason behind the nerf are being quite silly. They can already adjust those abilities to have different pvp potency/traits. (So this nerf had nothing to do with pvp)

    I think they may do a few things with ninja.

    1. They never said they were increasing the TP costs. (Adjustments could be lowering the costs to compensate for lower dps)
    2. If they increase the cost. They will likely bump Aeolian edge and dancing edge to 60.
    3. The lowered potency. I likely to be on Raiton and Trick attack. I can see trick attack being drop down to about 300-350 and Raiton being adjusted to about 330.
    4. Alternatively they could just adjust mutilate and shadow fang to be lower potency and call it a day.
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    Massterchef's Avatar
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    Zetsu Tei
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    Leviathan
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    Alchemist Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Synestra View Post
    Wait till you see NIN with pocket healer, NIN+Healer can pretty much duo 4+ bad players
    FTFY

    There's really no reason a solo nin should be able to kill any healer provided they had 1-2 CDs available, let alone win a 2 v 4.
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    Synestra's Avatar
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    Nel Synestra
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    Moogle
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Massterchef View Post
    There's really no reason a solo nin should be able to kill any healer provided they had 1-2 CDs available, let alone win a 2 v 4.
    True but just like you corrected most are "not so good" in FL's when it comes to pvp including your teammates most of time, but still stunlock+silence combo can screw even more experienced healers specially when you open with TA.
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    Lanfear Sessurea
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 60
    lol at ppl crying because they want their no-brain class to stay stronk xc
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    lol at ppl crying because they want their no-brain class to stay stronk xc
    People on forums tend to not do so well in the "reading" department. They see the word "nerf" and assume the worse, completely missing the whole "designed to be top DPS on purpose" part of the post. MMO gamers simply can't grasp at the fact that a job can get a nerf and still stay at the top.

    The only thing this patch is going to do is take this



    And make it more like this



    And look at that, NIN is still on top. Oh lawdy, y'all can take down dem road blocks now and put the torches out. Repent and thou shalt be saved!

    Just for fun, if we were to believe all these doom-n-gloom posts about the fall of NIN, we would end up with something like this

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    Last edited by Velox; 11-30-2014 at 06:02 PM. Reason: It's 4am and I'm an insomniac

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    Truth Chikara
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    Diabolos
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Ninja isn't top dps as it is, the hell are you talking about? If your ninja is parsing higher than your monk, you need a new monk.
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Truth_Chikara View Post
    Ninja isn't top dps as it is, the hell are you talking about? If your ninja is parsing higher than your monk, you need a new monk.
    Yes
    he should change the "DPS potential" in the pictures into "average player DPS potential"
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    Adol Giantbane
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Truth_Chikara View Post
    Ninja isn't top dps as it is, the hell are you talking about? If your ninja is parsing higher than your monk, you need a new monk.
    Remember, all extra damage provided to the raid by trick attack belongs to the ninja, but doesn't show up on the parser.
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    I''''''''l I''''''''l
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    Phantom
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 90
    Sorry, like often, I already did my own thread about this, didn't see this one. (Baka neko...)

    But I agree, NIN nerf was not necessary. They are basing the nerf in the top ninjas that manage to do the max damage it can... It is like if you nerf MNK because that... I mean... How many MNKs and NINs manage to do that? 5%?

    Average players won't notice such things but it is a low hit for that minority, to be honest.
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