Is the Ninja nerf really needed?

[ServerCollaps]

There is a reason why the first final coil clears went double monk.

they had no time for the ninja grind

[Alukah]

Ninja isn't top dps as it is, the hell are you talking about? If your ninja is parsing higher than your monk, you need a new monk.

Seriously that has been explained several times now, try making an effort and read the thread.

Outside T8 or your local rooted dummy MNK cannot reach their max potential, they can't even get close to it, but NIN can get near their max potential with close to no effort and that is a problem.

This is about regulating the amount of damage an equally skilled NIN, MNK and DRG can do, they will lower Ninja's upper limit just enough so someone with a similar skill as a Monk or a post-buff Dragoon can deal similar damage, only dealing more damage if they can reach their max potential.

The gap between a class main potential and the potential the average player can reach is determined by how hard it is to master the class, how hard it is to keep all your buffs, damage boosts and debuffs up.

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People on forums tend to not do so well in the "reading" department. They see the word "nerf" and assume the worse, completely missing the whole "designed to be top DPS on purpose" part of the post. MMO gamers simply can't grasp at the fact that a job can get a nerf and still stay at the top.

The only thing this patch is going to do is take this



And make it more like this



And look at that, NIN is still on top. Oh lawdy, y'all can take down dem road blocks now and put the torches out. Repent and thou shalt be saved!

Just for fun, if we were to believe all these doom-n-gloom posts about the fall of NIN, we would end up with something like this

[Iveriad]

There is a reason why the first final coil clears went double monk.

Because the group is too busy with their goal of beating Final Coil first that they don't have time to powerlevel Ninja and get iLv100-110 gears for their Ninja in a matter of two weeks?

[Atreides]

Because the group is too busy with their goal of beating Final Coil first that they don't have time to powerlevel Ninja and get iLv100-110 gears for their Ninja in a matter of two weeks?

No because Monk still does the highest ST damage and Dragon kick is almost crucial in t13 unless you overgear it.

[Alexia89]

Talking about myself, and I know how MNK works, thanks.

Apparently not.

[Fynlar]

MNK is already nerfed IMO due to the various mechanics of most of the fights in this game. I don't think MNK should be judged based only on what it can do under ideal circumstances when those circumstances rarely exist anyway.

[hallena]

MNK is already nerfed IMO due to the various mechanics of most of the fights in this game. I don't think MNK should be judged based only on what it can do under ideal circumstances when those circumstances rarely exist anyway.

Monk perform more than fine on every single encounter in the game

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Monk perform more than fine on every single encounter in the game

Leviathan EX disagrees with you.

[hallena]

Leviathan EX disagrees with you.

every encounter that matter*

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every encounter that matter*

If you're talking about fcob in particular then yes. Those fights are monk friendly. However, there are scenario's where monk dps can be lackluster like I just mentioned. Those scenarios don't really occur for ninjas since they don't rely on gl3. The current endgame fights are monk friendly but that doesn't mean it will always be that way.