Is the Ninja nerf really needed?

[Fynlar]

Highest dps in the game feels pathetic?

My NIN was beating it at a much lower level. *shrug*

Again, MNK's only comparable under ideal circumstances, which rarely exist in this game. NIN is pretty much not reliant on "circumstances"

[Elazu]

My NIN was beating it at a much lower level. *shrug*

Again, MNK's only comparable under ideal circumstances, which rarely exist in this game. NIN is pretty much not reliant on "circumstances"

Playing with the wrong Monks then.

[ElHeggunte]

Playing with the wrong Monks then.

If you think Monk is always the highest DPS in any situation you're very much mistaken. Monk is easily the highest potential single-target DPS, there's no dispute. However, that kind of performance is highly situational and fight mechanics in the majority of the game don't really match Monk's ideal environment.

[dday3six]

If you think Monk is always the highest DPS in any situation you're very much mistaken. Monk is easily the highest potential single-target DPS, there's no dispute. However, that kind of performance is highly situational and fight mechanics in the majority of the game don't really match Monk's ideal environment.

And you think the same is not true of Ninja?

MNK is already nerfed IMO due to the various mechanics of most of the fights in this game. I don't think MNK should be judged based only on what it can do under ideal circumstances when those circumstances rarely exist anyway.

So by that logic Dragoon is fine because T13 can be beaten with 3 Dragoons and a Bard, right?

[Mogi]

This is a good thing i pull off 1100k and 1200 with my nin my dragoon i do sometimes 1000 or 1100 at times but nin a lot more dragoon is strength nin is Dexterity they need the nerf

[Alistaire]

My NIN was beating it at a much lower level. *shrug*

Again, MNK's only comparable under ideal circumstances, which rarely exist in this game. NIN is pretty much not reliant on "circumstances"

If a MNK was being beaten by a NIN it was a bad MNK, or the MNK had more mechanics to deal with. End of story.

The only thing this patch is going to do is take this

So much work put into something that just wasn't correct.

[coldreactive]

I want them to nerf its aggro generation, I don't care if DPS is nerfed.

[Fynlar]

Playing with the wrong Monks then.

Talking about myself, and I know how MNK works, thanks.

[hallena]

Talking about myself, and I know how MNK works, thanks.

Monk outdps ninja.
However monk should also get a nerf

[Atreides]

Talking about myself, and I know how MNK works, thanks.

Not to break it for you but you're doing it wrong when you're behind Ninjas in single target DPS as Monk.
Sure when we're talking about trash mobs Ninja is stronger indeed but in real fights where it actually matters aka Coils monks should always beat ninjas.
There is a reason why the first final coil clears went double monk.
Monk is outright OP when it comes to ST, now we had a class that is almost able to match it and it gets nerfed instead of just bringing dragoon to the same lvl and have 3 competitive melees.
Oh and Dragon Kick is the best utility you can get in the final coils.