Women and Armor!

[Remilia_Nightfall]

Some slut shaming going on in this thread.

Talking to my sister who's taking sociology, her bigger beef is how all the characters are basically "perfect", which spreads a false image of what "normal" is. However I argue that the point of an MMO is escapism, to be something you are not (as most games are).

Really.

Going by this logic, I guess we should believe that catgirls, lalafells and roegadyns are "normal", and we should all strive to resemble them in real life.

Well, I would not mind meeting some female Miqo'tes, but in general I believe that any sane person has a clear idea about what's real and what's not.

[Aegis]

Some slut shaming going on in this thread.

I wouldn't say so. It seems to me the gist of the complaints is not that people are wearing this armour, but that the armours in question appears to be designed by a puerile, juvenile designer who feels that it is not sufficient that armour traded between two characters should remain generally the same, but that it should change depending on gender.

I don't see why I can craft a nice evening suit set for myself, craft the exact same recipe and, when given to a female friend, it becomes a mini-skirt, stockings and about an acre of cleavage other than because some designer thinks women should be showing displaying their boobs and thighs at all times.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

I wouldn't say so. It seems to me the gist of the complaints is not that people are wearing this armour, but that the armours in question appears to be designed by a puerile, juvenile designer who feels that it is not sufficient that armour traded between two characters should remain generally the same, but that it should change depending on gender.

They did that with the Noct Lorica. Result? Cute girls with abs.



People complained (and rightly so).

Style is important, in a FF game.

[Aegis]

They did that with the Noct Lorica. Result? Cute girls with abs.



People complained (and rightly so).

Style is important, in a FF game.

More people have complained over the stab window in the DRG AF than the noct lorica abs.

But it's irrelevant really. The devs have made their decision. More gender dimorphic gear is being introduced. More gear that is plainly there for titillation also. I think no amount of these kind of threads is going to change their minds one iota. It just seems a shame to me because I had expected more after playing XI and XIV 1.0 and being spoiled by the more mature approach.

[Naelle]

I sense a Rokien...

[Aegis]

I sense a Rokien...

I have no problem with people wearing what they want to wear, but let's not pretend the level 1 RSE was introduced for any reason other than cheap tawdry "Tee hee, I can see her underwear"

Let's call a spade a spade.

[raelgun]

Ok gonna bite on this thread, as a owner of the FF14 artbook that I acquired at fanfest. Theres little quotes from the designers of the artwork on every piece.
The most striking quote was that the start race gear was designed with cosplayers in mind and was aided by cosplayers, which you might notice most high profile cosplayers are female.

[Gilraen]

I still don't see how this game is as 'juvenile' as some want to say. Outside of the coatee line, a large portion of level 1 vanity and a handful of other armor, the armor in this game is rather unisex, conservative and barely anything to get 'bothered' over. Monster Hunter is more dimorphic than this game (and more over the top). Calling back to my previous posts, there's Korean games where the ENTIRE library of female armor is titillating eye-candy clearly aimed at appealing to male players. Comparing this game to that is being very shortsighted. The developers have spoken, and they obviously prefer practical over puerile.

[Aegis]

I still don't see how this game is as 'juvenile' as some want to say. Outside of the coatee line, a large portion of level 1 vanity and a handful of other armor, the armor in this game is rather unisex, conservative and barely anything to get 'bothered' over. Monster Hunter is more dimorphic than this game (and more over the top). Calling back to my previous posts, there's Korean games where the ENTIRE library of female armor is titillating eye-candy clearly aimed at appealing to male players. Comparing this game to that is being very shortsighted. The developers have spoken, and they obviously prefer practical over puerile.

There was a time when there was no impractical gear in this game. They're moving away from that.

Just because other games set a low bar, doesn't mean that's the bar to judge against.

[Gralna]

There was a time when there was no impractical gear in this game. They're moving away from that.

Just because other games set a low bar, doesn't mean that's the bar to judge against.

I think you dropped this...