Poetic (Ironworks) Gear

[SpookyGhost]

Because missing, breaking your combo and losing aggro is a great way to raid!

I thought I was speaking to people with common sense. Yes, accuracy matters, was not talking about accuracy... clearly... as it's literally the only secondary that is necessary and that's pretty much widely accepted. But yeah no I was definitely saying you shouldn't hit accuracy cap. Definitely.

Edit: Apologies, that was a bit overly aggressive. But c'mon man, you really think I'm condoning not hitting accuracy cap? I assumed the OP knew about that so I kinda figured he'd take "secondaries" as Parry/Det/Crit. I suppose my original post was a bit open-ended, so sorry for any confusion.

[PWilson]

An interesting selection of responses. I don't think I could've asked for a broader set of opinions! :O

[Synestr]

I personally am not pushing FCoB atm, still working on finalizing SCoB. My purchase order so far has been, Shield > Head > Feet > Hands as those were the biggest jump in terms of ilvl and VIT/STR increases. My Lirica and Noct breeches still serve me well, when I have the tomes saved I will be replacing my lorica with the Ironworks chest, retainer will be happy lol.

As a PLD that defended the Noct Hoplon, don't discount parry. It has it's place with PLD.

[Donjo]

Well, here's an opinion that hasn't been expressed quite yet: Poetics pieces for Tanks are fantastic for Accuracy. If you're progressing in the Final Coil, don't be afraid to get the Chest, Pants, Belt, or some of the Accessories to jump that Accuracy number up if you need it.

Additionally, there's not really too much harm in seeing a slot you bought drop in Coil when the Coil drop is a higher iLvl than the piece you purchased. It's just a smaller upgrade, and an upgrade is an upgrade either way!

[GeekMatt]

My take on gearing is this; I'm a PLD first and foremost, though I also play NIN and WHM. So PLD gets first dibs on gear. WHM I consider my secondary, but it isn't so heavily gear-dependant so after PLD I gear NIN, then WHM.

PLD gets everything when it comes to weekly caps (poetics) before the others get anything. As a tank and a healer I'm very aware of what type of damage I'm taking in a fight, as well as the rest of the party. So when entering a new fight I always use my heaviest mitigation gear set for PLD. After a run or two, when I know what the damage is like, I may start swapping out Parry stats for Crit, etc. So when purchasing gear my priorities are the same regardless of any DR on defensive stats. Speaking as a healer, the easier it is to heal the tank, the more likely I'll be able to compensate for DPS mishaps and unexpected mechanics. As a PLD if I can stay alive, manage mechanics and control aggro then I'm pulling my weight, and gear adjustments are made in the best interest of the party (i.e, is healer struggling/are enraged timers not quite being met). To me this is more practical than an ultimate min/max set that's designed to meet the needs of the hardest content.

[Kerwin]

I roll Parry and accuracy on my paladin's Nexus. I welcome all the pary they added to the ironworks gear.

[Lothar808]

So here is what I did:

IF you want some good flexibility: Buy the Body > Legs > Gloves > Ring

Then with the right combination of accessories, you can do one of two things. Want a more parry centric build, use the dread helm, boots, belt. You want a more dps centric build use the ironworks helm, boots, belt.

Both of these builds sit right around 555 ACC, IF you at least put ACC into your Relic as the second full stat. The dread legs are great for DPS (CRIT/DET), but if you dont have ACC on your weapon/shield and decide to use the dread legs you will be basically locked into getting every other piece that has the most ACC on it. Just some food for thought.

[SirTaint]

So here is what I did:

IF you want some good flexibility: Buy the Body > Legs > Gloves > Ring

some food for thought.

I wouldn't recommend any accessories until you have all i120-130 left side pieces. Coil RNG is not dependable. Left side pieces >>>>> right side pieces. (STR+VIT vs VIT) Especially considering only one fight even requires VIT accessories. (and I'm sure that is getting iffy as players left sides get geared)

My order is Shield (i130) > Legs > Hands > Body > pray for Fending drops > Head > Feet > Belt > Ring (i130 for t13) > Slaying Accessories

[Synestr]

I wouldn't recommend any accessories until you have all i120-130 left side pieces. Coil RNG is not dependable. Left side pieces >>>>> right side pieces. (STR+VIT vs VIT) Especially considering only one fight even requires VIT accessories. (and I'm sure that is getting iffy as players left sides get geared)

My order is Shield (i130) > Legs > Hands > Body > pray for Fending drops > Head > Feet > Belt > Ring (i130 for t13) > Slaying Accessories

I agree that left is much more important that right. I am however going for the best iLVL upgrades for my PLD/WAR. I have all Noct, except the 1 weathered noct ring, which I will replace this week with the poetics ring and should have enough for the belt. I have the Noct Lorica, Breeches, and belt which still serve me well, the upgrades I took were the Shield, Head, Feet, and hands.

Hopefully we get to clear T9 this week so I can at least step foot in FCoB.

[PROBOUND]

So here is what I did:

IF you want some good flexibility: Buy the Body > Legs > Gloves > Ring

Then with the right combination of accessories, you can do one of two things. Want a more parry centric build, use the dread helm, boots, belt. You want a more dps centric build use the ironworks helm, boots, belt.

Great minds think alike! Exactly what i found in my research as well. A Great tank will gear himself with both sets in mind. They really made it easy on us this time around. Flexibility is the key word!

As a PLD who slotted Parry/Acc in my nexus my main focus is obtaining the 700 Parry BiS first and foremost. After that set is made, i'll purchase the remaining pieces to create the DET/CRIT set and then rely on the Coil Weapon to complete it.

Its a great system that allows me to actually use both my Relic and Coil weapons at all times for different situations.

It's also worth mentioning that Parry is much more valuable now in FCoB as many of the physical attacks where designed with Parry in mind and will only become more valuable in the future as the dev's have already mentioned. 700 Parry set will be in prep for T13 and progression up until then. Once its on Farm its CRIT/DET all day!