Best MMO

[Pibz]

I won't because it isn't.. yet, hopefully..

[Synestra]

Having played a lot of MMOs, and more than half the games on that list, I can say all modern MMOs are bad and ARR is simply below average in a lot of parts and slightly above average in some aspects. It does a couple of things better than most MMOs but other games do a much better job, especially on the content, latency and responsiveness side. Honestly I wouldn't vote for any game on that list, though WoW would get a minor honorary vote simply for having the best latency and responsiveness on the themepark MMO market.

The way WoW runs is best i have also experienced so totally agree with bolded part.

Kinda suprised that GW2 is currently leading, maybe they fixed some culling issues so i might actually check it out someday again. Its pvp focused game so that might got something to do with votes, and pvp in there is imo pretty damn fun.

[Gaelu]

The way WoW runs is best i have also experienced so totally agree with bolded part.

Kinda suprised that GW2 is currently leading, maybe they fixed some culling issues so i might actually check it out someday again. Its pvp focused game so that might got something to do with votes, and pvp in there is imo pretty damn fun.

the World vs World in GW2 was freaking amazing, i loved that! wish they would have something similar in this game as well :/

[Veji]

Please go play GW2 for 3-6 months and then come back here an tell me a shop that is selling halloween outfits and pets is too much.

[Obysuca]

Please go play GW2 for 3-6 months and then come back here an tell me a shop that is selling halloween outfits and pets is too much.

The difference is, we're already paying a subscription fee here.

the World vs World in GW2 was freaking amazing, i loved that! wish they would have something similar in this game as well :/

I'm not even into pvp and world vs world was fun when I did it lol

[Themis]

The difference is, we're already paying a subscription fee here.

And you get to play the game, do you not?

Sub fee does not have to equate to "complete access to every single thing made by the developers". It means "you can now access the game". You pay to allow connection to the server. I'm pretty sure it says that much in the User Agreement you signed up to before you even started.

It's like having a season ticket to a game of some kind. It doesn't give you full access to all the food and drink, that usually comes separately at a price. The same is here with the cash shop for the additional extras. The fact that you don't have to pay for the patches between expansions is already more generosity than anyone should expect given the terms of service that you agree with at the beginning.

[MomomiMomi]

And you get to play the game, do you not?

Sub fee does not have to equate to "complete access to every single thing made by the developers". It means "you can now access the game". You pay to allow connection to the server. I'm pretty sure it says that much in the User Agreement you signed up to before you even started.

People do not pay based on the terms of what paying gives you. They pay based on the value they see in the service. The value in a subscription game is traditionally that you get access to the same content as everyone else, as you are all paying customers. This is a differentiation to the free to play model, which gives a superior service to those willing to pay, in contrast to those who do not wish to pay, or pay less.

Until the cash shop was added, that value was mostly there in this game.

That value is no longer there. Are you really surprised that people are upset about that?

[hallena]

People are still butthurt about that? Wow. I'd almost forgotten all about it. (that's a hint; it really is that forgettable an addition if you just get over it)

This is why this industry is going to shit. Literally no matter what a dev/publisher do, some suck up will be fine with it and go out of its way to defend it.

[Obysuca]

And you get to play the game, do you not?

Sub fee does not have to equate to "complete access to every single thing made by the developers". It means "you can now access the game". You pay to allow connection to the server.

It's like having a season ticket to a game of some kind. It doesn't give you full access to all the food and drink, that usually comes separately at a price.

Just going to assume you've obviously never played a subscription based mmo before based on your comment >_> The subscription you pay monthly has always allowed you access to everything in game, those "food and drink" you brought up are the expansions, otherwise you get the full experience for your 12.95 a month. Based on what you're saying, you seem to be the type who'd buy a game for 60.00 to only be allowed to access the start menu and tutorial, then whip out your wallet and pay for more levels. That's not how subscription based mmos work, you must be confused with F2P where you actually have to pay to get "food and drink"

[Korilynn]

The subscription you pay monthly has always allowed you access to everything in game, those "food and drink" you brought up are the expansions, otherwise you get the full experience for your 12.95 a month. Based on what you're saying, you seem to be the type who'd buy a game for 60.00 to only be allowed to access the start menu and tutorial, then whip out your wallet and pay for more levels. That's not how subscription based mmos work, you must be confused with F2P where you actually have to pay to get "food and drink"

You're right. Sadly, when you have those who pay the sub and then say "I'll also pay more" it became a losing battle. In TOR I was in a guild with at least three people who were putting 100 dollars once a week to every two weeks into the cash shop and paying their sub.

Of course, tired of hearing people complain about sub costs when the sub cost is rather cheap.