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    RazeLandale's Avatar
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    Raze Landale
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    but having an actual AoE before level 40 will be a MASSIVE gamechanger.
    Deathblossom without the trait is really, really awful. Seriously.

    Though you can use it pre 30 if you really want.
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    Vahn Vana'diel
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    Goad shouldn't be crossclassed. It adds a new responsibility of monitoring your raid's TP. I would very much enjoy NOT having to worry about that.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by zar View Post
    Goad shouldn't be crossclassed. It adds a new responsibility of monitoring your raid's TP. I would very much enjoy NOT having to worry about that.
    Unfortunately for you, Goad is in fact a Cross-class skill for classes, just not for jobs...yet.
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    Tiggy Te'al
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    if only for fun.
    So throw game balance completely out of the window? I agree they should add Nin to some jobs for cross class, but let's do it for reasonable reasons. This isn't a sandbox and such changes demand balance.
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    Player ErikMynhier's Avatar
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    Erik Mynhier
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    So throw game balance completely out of the window? I agree they should add Nin to some jobs for cross class, but let's do it for reasonable reasons. This isn't a sandbox and such changes demand balance.
    No one said anything about throwing the balance out the window. But you must admit some cross-class skills are more "fun" or what I should have written, "situational". One that comes to mind is Raise on a Paladin. If you happen to be out and about in the overworld and see a downed noob, sure its fun to help them out. But there is no combat/endgame value to that skill for the Tank of the party. That is what I meant by "fun".
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    So throw game balance completely out of the window? I agree they should add Nin to some jobs for cross class, but let's do it for reasonable reasons. This isn't a sandbox and such changes demand balance.
    I somehow doubt the game would suddenly be thrown into chaos over the inclusion of a few new cross-class skills, and if it did then it would only prove to show how fragile existing jobs are. Let's be honest, most of the ones we get suck anyway, and we can only set a maximum of 5 on a job.

    But it's important to realise one crucial thing here... balance does NOT mean every job being the same. The FFXI devs knew this, and that's why the equipment system, and the jobs themselves, are as rich and vibrant as they can be. ARR does not, and that's why the jobs play in an identical fashion to every other one.
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    Resa Nome
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Could you image the bitching that would occur when some people logged in and found that they changed their cross classes without asking for their personal consent first?

    That is why no current jobs were changed to cross class with rogue.
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    Robin Icebrand
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    Midgardsormr
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    I'm more curious as to why ROG only has 3 cross-class skills when most others have 4 or 5 (albeit one useless one in most cases). Also, not having a ROG with Death Blossom yet, how useful would a 60potency AoE be to other classes anyway, especially with a high TP cost?
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteltain View Post
    I'm more curious as to why ROG only has 3 cross-class skills when most others have 4 or 5 (albeit one useless one in most cases). Also, not having a ROG with Death Blossom yet, how useful would a 60potency AoE be to other classes anyway, especially with a high TP cost?
    It is 10 TP cheaper and 10 potency greater than Arm of the Destroyer and players leveling a Lancer/Dragoon pre-42 don't have any AoE capability.
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