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    Player ErikMynhier's Avatar
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    Ninja Cross-Class

    So has there been any word on the cross-class system being overhauled in the next patch? Specifically I am referring to the fact that no JOB can cross-class to use ROG skills. I would think several classes could benefit from some fresh skills, if only for fun.
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    No official statements have been made other than the fact that dark knight has no base class and yoshi-p has said he can't reveal why this is the case.

    I'm taking this as a hint that the job/class system will be reworked for heavensward.
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    I would say one reason they didn't attach these to any jobs was to reduce the amount of people leveling it off the bat. Had they had ROG abilities that other jobs could use a lot more people would of pushed through to level up to at least 18 to have the two must have abilities if their job could use it. But there is also something else to keep in mind.

    The current job system works under the assumption that they can only draw abilities from two other classes besides their base class. SMN=Archer/Thaumaturge, SCH=Conjurer/Thaumaturge, BLM=Arcanist/Archer, WAR=Pugilist/Gladiator etc etc, which means they would of had to change the rules that jobs abide by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    that no JOB older than Ninja can cross-class to use ROG skills.
    I fixed it a bit

    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    The current job system works under the assumption that they can only draw abilities from two other classes besides their base class. SMN=Archer/Thaumaturge, SCH=Conjurer/Thaumaturge, BLM=Arcanist/Archer, WAR=Pugilist/Gladiator etc etc, which means they would of had to change the rules that jobs abide by.
    and exactly this. But not change the rule of 1 job = 2 sub classes, but more about arranging which job get which sub class again.
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    Last edited by Felis; 11-29-2014 at 03:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    No official statements have been made other than the fact that dark knight has no base class and yoshi-p has said he can't reveal why this is the case.

    I'm taking this as a hint that the job/class system will be reworked for heavensward.
    I really hope you're right.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    and exactly this. But not change the rule of 1 job = 2 sub classes, but more about arranging which job get which sub class again.
    Unless from NIN on they start adding a 3rd class jobs can pull from or remove the class lockouts and start picking and choosing what skill/ability every job can get from the others.
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    They may just be delaying the cross-class sharing until Heavensward. The big problem right now is that any job that gets access to Perfect Dodge, Goad and Death Blossum in addition to its existing cross-class skills will have an advantage over those classes who do not have a 3rd class to cross-class with. Each class will likely get their 3rd cross-class skill set when Dark Knight and the as yet unnamed Gun class are introduced in 3.0.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    They may just be delaying the cross-class sharing until Heavensward. The big problem right now is that any job that gets access to Perfect Dodge, Goad and Death Blossum in addition to its existing cross-class skills will have an advantage over those classes who do not have a 3rd class to cross-class with. Each class will likely get their 3rd cross-class skill set when Dark Knight and the as yet unnamed Gun class are introduced in 3.0.
    To be honest they'll probably only give the abilities to MNK and DRG. Getting Goad alone will give DRG more utility, but having an actual AoE before level 40 will be a MASSIVE gamechanger. Plus Perfect Dodge guarantees they can Jump without getting hit by any physical attacks. MNKs...we're already solid without those abilities, so they wouldn't change much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    To be honest they'll probably only give the abilities to MNK and DRG. Getting Goad alone will give DRG more utility, but having an actual AoE before level 40 will be a MASSIVE gamechanger. Plus Perfect Dodge guarantees they can Jump without getting hit by any physical attacks. MNKs...we're already solid without those abilities, so they wouldn't change much.
    Monk would still gain a bit from Perfect Dodge and Death Blossum, but I suspect that Dark Knight could get access to ROG Cross Class skills also.
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    Syndrel Nannypants
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    Sorry for the hijacking!

    Level 16 PUG is apparently not high enough to create a thread of my own, so I'm forced to ask in a ninja based post, sorry!

    I'm a new player trying to build a ninja, but I've just gone over the level 16 PUG cliff on my way to my airship pass. Can I still build up as a viable Ninja or should I just make this my Monk and level up a new Ninja? Not being able to get my Rogue job without the airship pass was a surprise -_-
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