Inflation Control - Novus weapons needing Materia

[HellishFae]

I really wish I could hop in here with a cool idea for how to fix the inflation problems on the market, but figuring out an in-game economy is not really my forte.

That said, I don't think the merit of a person's Novus weapon should be based on the amount of Gil they own.
I understand that SBing exists, but with the RNG element, a person is just as likely to have to spend the same amount of gil on gear before obtaining the right materia as they would just buying it straight off of the marketplace.

Which then, if someone is less fortunate in gil or doesn't have the RNG god gene, they are left with 2 options;
- Hold off until the point they have enough gil to buy the most advantageous materia for the weapon,
OR
- Settle for the shittier option and buy/use materia that is more affordable, leaving them with an irreversible, inferior product.

I just don't like the idea that something someone is working so hard to obtain will only ever be as good as the size of their wallet.

[Grotesque]

It is not irreversible.

[Its_Elodie]

I've been stuck on my only novus for my main class for months. My problem isn't with the alexandrite or any other aspect of the relic quest, it's just that I'm not a three or four star crafter and im not going to buy Gil to be able to afford the best materia for my novus. There's two stats that I need to finish maxing my weapon and savage aim and might iv's are going for 800k and 650k respectively on my server. I've been spirit bonding for months now and I can count on one hand the savage aim and might iv's I've gotten. IMO SE is basically saying have a high level crafter to be able to make the money for the best novus you can get for most characters, have months to play the rng and spirit bond your own materia, the Gil sellers, or just settle for a bad weapon. I'm starting to see all signs point to everyone having to be a four star crafter to be able to afford a good novus unless you are ok with being at the mercy of rng forever, or the Gil bots:/

[Yonko]

I've been stuck on my only novus for my main class for months. My problem isn't with the alexandrite or any other aspect of the relic quest, it's just that I'm not a three or four star crafter and im not going to buy Gil to be able to afford the best materia for my novus. There's two stats that I need to finish maxing my weapon and savage aim and might iv's are going for 800k and 650k respectively on my server. I've been spirit bonding for months now and I can count on one hand the savage aim and might iv's I've gotten. IMO SE is basically saying have a high level crafter to be able to make the money for the best novus you can get for most characters, have months to play the rng and spirit bond your own materia, the Gil sellers, or just settle for a bad weapon. I'm starting to see all signs point to everyone having to be a four star crafter to be able to afford a good novus unless you are ok with being at the mercy of rng forever, or the Gil bots:/

In terms of time spent SBing it is probably better to SB crafter/gatherer gear and sell the materia you get then use the gil to buy the ones you want. You don't have to worry about getting materia that will sell for less than the cost of the gear that way.

[ChameleonMS]

[FONT="Century Gothic"]...I'm not a three or four star crafter and im not going to buy Gil to be able to afford the best materia for my novus...

Neither am I, but I have no problem generating money. There are plenty of items you can craft and sell on the board to generate the funds, as you have several crafting class at 50. I make a very tidy profit selling lvl18, 28, 38 jewellery on the boards. Cost is say 400 gil per item, each item usually sells with 2 days at 10K+ each. That will generate 200K per day. You can earn another 50K per day with In Need bonuses for the duty roulettes. On my board, that means I could buy a Savage Might IV every 2 or 3 days. All other materia is just cheap by comparison. In addition, you can craft Zircon jewellery and SB it. That should yield you at least 1 Savage Might IV, every two sets.

[Sibyll]

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You could SB 2* gear. LTW makes Gryphonskin gear (Monk/Ninja/Bard for everything but the earrings) and Hard Hippo Leather has been cheap lately. Run Lost City, Brayflox HM and Halatali HM. Got about a 50% chance to get a Grade IV. If the gear is HQ and has 1 melded materia it'll fully bind in three runs unless the group is skipping trash.

Set costs about 70-90k to make on my server so if I get even a single Might/Aim IV it's paid for itself 5x over. Honestly unless you get all tier III stat/elemental/quickarm materia you've at least broken even.

Also, Ehcatl Sealants, though the price seems to be tanking. Those were going for 350k per sealant on my server. You can get 3 Sealants every 4 days, so that would get you roughly 1 mil every 4 days. That'd be about 4 Savage Might IVs a week for 15 mins a day worth of effort.

[kensatsu]

ok just something i finish my novus 1 month after it got the novus upgrade, the materia inflation was worst,
just get the idea using all the materia IV don't wort it, that all...
by exemple my gae bolg (longinus now^^) i just put 25 crit, 25 deter, 25 acc
you can still manage too get less acc with a armor piece, also got the acc on the weapon will be a security if you need acc and have a problem to get it with the current new gears.
it work for any class expept BLM they need acc to but 25 will maybe be a little too harsh, you may want less than 25
and exept for WHM/SCH : they don't need ACC : you may chose Castspeed/deter/crit or something like that
choose not 2 stats but 3 stats, you don't need to put so much materia IV
also for PLD this is what i suggest : both on the shield and sword put the more you can : ACC, Parade on the sword and shield in materia III, put some materia IV just what you can afford, and after or if you can afford materia IV put deter III to complete.
Well i hope it help, and you do the same in real life anyway, you always look for the cheaper price for anything, your weapon will not be better by put so much materia IV on it, also secondary stat don't make a so big difference, you need stat your job can need :
DRG : ACC, DETER, CRIT, PLD/WAR : ACC, Parade, deter, NINJA/MONK : ACC, DETER, CRIT (Skillspeed is also questionable), WHM, Deter, cast speed, pie SCH crit, cast speed, pie, BARD : ACC, crit deter, BLM : Acc, Crit, Deter (eventualy cast speed)

[Janhyua]

You can always go 33 crit 23 det and 19 acc is cheaper that way the extra stat is not worth the money

[dspguy]

A solution (if one is needed) is to let Savage Aim IV give 4 points of crit. Same with all stats. Tier IV materia gives 4 "points" on the infusion scroll. Honestly, that's what I see SE doing eventually. They'll allow players to either earn 75 alexandrites (expend the time farming it all) and then use all Tier 1 materia or spend only 18 alexandrite, but be forced to use all tier IV materia for the stats.

[ServerCollaps]

just by buying wedding stuff tens of millions of gil vanish from every server every day

I dont know how many gil are generated per day but I'ld say just because of the wedding npc the servers are going to lose more money than they generate each day, which works pretty well against an inflation

If you need money or materia: start desynthing the stuff yourself. If I invest 2m gil in wedding gear (which takes about 30 min) I usually make 5m by selling the demi III (~42k), hard leather (30k) and HQ leather (50k)

you can also use the leathers to craft ilvl 70 dow gear and bind it in 4-5 t4 runs, the grade IV materia rate from ilvl 70 stuff is ~40% and you still have the chances to get allagan leather + silks which also sell for a lot