Getting hit by others' enemy AoE while DoL gathering

[Taliph]

Seriously, where are these unyielded nodes that prones to grieve attacks?

From what I recall, the one in North Thanalan that's close to aggro mobs are regular lvl 50 ones. There's one unyield nodes just northwest from Ceruleum camp, but they are very far from anything that could aggro or even brought close before losing aggro.

The only unyield nodes that's close to those aggroes are east from Revenant Toll camps where Gigas roaming near those unyield cluster nodes. But even so, I haven't got any sort of grieve attacks there.

First, you seem to be missing the point, the DoL isn't the one aggressing the mob in these situations because they are using stealth.
Second, anywhere in the wild that is near water is susceptible to this, any unspoiled node (even the sheep near dragon head can break your node if someone feels like being a douche) but most commonly it happens on traveled routes between fates where level 45+ mobs get aggroed by the crowd as they pass by.

[BobbinT]

the DoL isn't the one aggressing the mob in these situations because they are using stealth.

errr.... at which point did I meant the one you said? Didn't you even read mine or OP post at all?

And 2nd, did you even gather often? I see you even have all lvl 50 DoLs, but your post seems like you doesn't gather things much.

As in area near Camp Dragonhead, there's darksteel ores, spruce logs, & astral rocks to name a few. And those are all located far from any type of aggro mobs. There are several docile mobs nearby or those that are below more than 10 levels than level 50 DoLs, so... unless there are super jerks that intentionally aggroes them for grieve attacks, I'd say it's unlikely.

I admit I couldn't said the same with fisher since they do prone to be vulnerable with this at certain areas.

Still, just report any those grieve attacks should you happen to be the victim of it.

[Fynlar]

Seriously, where are these unyielded nodes that prones to grieve attacks?

The one that prompted this thread is the fragrant log node in South Shroud, which has kedtraps and the Conspiracy Theory FATE by it.

That, North Shards, and the Mor Dhona nodes have all been the biggest offenders for me.

Still, just report any those grieve attacks should you happen to be the victim of it.

Again... I know not everyone who's doing this is intentionally trying to be a griefer, even though it's very easy and possible for one to do so if so inclined. I don't want to have to report every little instance where this occurs, especially because I know that if I did I would mostly be whining about people who just made honest mistakes. But it's still irritating as all hell when it happens.

This is an issue where I feel like SE needs to step in and do something to prevent this sort of thing from happening in the first place.

[BobbinT]

The one that prompted this thread is the fragrant log node in South Shroud, which has kedtraps and the Conspiracy Theory FATE by it.

Know the place, farmed sufficient log to get my forager axe, mob there also quite low level for a level 50 botany. If there's ppl doing those AOE intentionally using those mobs, then it is definitely grieve attack. That, unless the one who initiate it are players that's around same level range as the mob which I would give warning 1st. Still... I finished my fragrant log farming without any casualties.

[Fynlar]

Know the place, farmed sufficient log to get my forager axe, mob there also quite low level for a level 50 botany. If there's ppl doing those AOE intentionally using those mobs, then it is definitely grieve attack.

The people doing this are usually not level 50 (except for the North Shards location, where level 50s will still aggro the hapalits and level 50s actually have a reason to pass through the area because the Another Notch on the Torch FATE is one needed for animus books and probably hunts). Every time I've had this happen at this particular location it was a level 20ish dude (in lowbie gear; as in not an experienced level 50 dude who was just level synced down) who was likely unaware the kedtrap would even try to AoE them and therefore wasn't paying attention to other people standing in the potential range.

Again, my point still stands though, whether it's intentional griefing or not, I still believe it should be changed. It's way too easy for this sort of thing to occur.

[BobbinT]

The people doing this are usually not level 50 (except for the North Shards location, where level 50s will still aggro the hapalits and level 50s actually have a reason to pass through the area because the Another Notch on the Torch FATE is one needed for animus books and probably hunts). Every time I've had this happen at this particular location it was a level 20ish dude (in lowbie gear; as in not an experienced level 50 dude who was just level synced down) who was likely unaware the kedtrap would even try to AoE them and therefore wasn't paying attention to other people standing in the potential range.

Again, my point still stands though, whether it's intentional griefing or not, I still believe it should be changed. It's way too easy for this sort of thing to occur.

Maybe. Still... some people do prefers part of realism in it, and having dangers are one of them. Not saying that I against it, but I didn't really object it either.

Back when rank B was still aggro type, I was laughing my ass off when that stupid Monarch Ogrefly aggroed me while I was gathering nearby. Out of 5 aggro, not only it successfully interrupted me each time, it manages to rape me twice I think. I do complain a bit back then, but when I think about it, it's still kinda funny. XD

[Fynlar]

Again... it's not even a real danger. It's just a huge annoyance, much like how getting heavied on a mount is, except this can actually be utilized by other players as griefing if so inclined.

Also, "danger" can generally be circumvented with proper care and planning. There is not a damn thing you can do about something like this if someone just happens to bring a mob by you while you're gathering, whether intentionally or not.

[Magnesium02]

Last night there was a x3 gloom window in mor dhona and as i usually spend my evenings before bed winding down with big fishing after doing all my dailies/raids, I thought I would give Canavan/Kuno a try. So here I am, food on, in stealth fishing and for the first 2 glooom windows I didn't mooch a single HQ goldfish, only nq and assasain betas. Then I get a HQ mooch! Its a Goldfish, I cast my line in for a try at a Canavan and ... somebody runs along the path behind me, triggers a Hapalit and it does an aoe. Right. On. Me.

So I get cancelled from my fishing, get unstealthed and stand up. I sat there for a good 2 minutes just looking at my character on the screen, so full of 'nope' that I just logged off there an then.

Pretty sure it was unintentional, just a by protuct of a persons movement and the mobs AI, but damn. I didn't even care how much time i had left in the weather window or the food duration, I was just over it.

[BobbinT]

Last night there was a x3 gloom window in mor dhona and as i usually spend my evenings before bed winding down with big fishing after doing all my dailies/raids, I thought I would give Canavan/Kuno a try. So here I am, food on, in stealth fishing and for the first 2 glooom windows I didn't mooch a single HQ goldfish, only nq and assasain betas. Then I get a HQ mooch! Its a Goldfish, I cast my line in for a try at a Canavan and ... somebody runs along the path behind me, triggers a Hapalit and it does an aoe. Right. On. Me.

So I get cancelled from my fishing, get unstealthed and stand up. I sat there for a good 2 minutes just looking at my character on the screen, so full of 'nope' that I just logged off there an then.

Pretty sure it was unintentional, just a by protuct of a persons movement and the mobs AI, but damn. I didn't even care how much time i had left in the weather window or the food duration, I was just over it.

..........

I am a bit speechless myself. Kinda expected, but still...

Anyways, don't give up. There's already someone carrying that Ironwork fishing rod. You can make it. ^^

[Fynlar]

Players will now be invulnerable to area attacks while gathering if they have not gained aggro from enemies.

There is a god, and he saw my thread!