Getting hit by others' enemy AoE while DoL gathering

[Fynlar]

As far as I know both the mob and the raid boss still work on the same aggro system. Once someone gets close enough and/or seen/heard they get targeted first. Nothing changed there.

No no, you don't seem to understand. I'm talking about being attacked/killed immediately as you're exiting the cutscene before you've even gotten a chance to take any action. Because, you know, that would be more realistic, and seems to be the standpoint you're shooting from.

So here's a thought. Switch to a DoW/DoM class real quick and kill the measly, relatively easy-to-kill mob if it's in the way of your node that you need and then switch back to your DoL and gather away.

Bad solution, for a couple reasons:
1) changing from a DoL class screws your GP count (it stores up to your base 400 even after changing classes, but anything past that is not retained)
2) this doesn't help fishers at all, as it takes longer for them to complete a mooch chain (even assuming you catch all your proper HQ fish on the first try) than it does for mobs to respawn

Or.. don't switch and kill it with your DoL class (it's not that hard to do, I've killed level 49/50? Piestes as a Miner in N. Than)

Haha, yeah, and take a good eternity or so doing it. Say goodbye to your unspoiled node.

If it's something unfortunate like a mob spawning on you while you're gathering well.. stuff happens. You missed a node, or at least your buffs on it. It's not the end of the world.

This is happening to me often enough that I'm through with just bending over and taking it like you seem to have acquiesced to.

A change needs to happen. The change required is not even complicated. They made it happen in FFXI, of all things. They can make it happen here.

[BobbinT]

Seriously, where are these unyielded nodes that prones to grieve attacks?

From what I recall, the one in North Thanalan that's close to aggro mobs are regular lvl 50 ones. There's one unyield nodes just northwest from Ceruleum camp, but they are very far from anything that could aggro or even brought close before losing aggro.

The only unyield nodes that's close to those aggroes are east from Revenant Toll camps where Gigas roaming near those unyield cluster nodes. But even so, I haven't got any sort of grieve attacks there.

[Taliph]

Seriously, where are these unyielded nodes that prones to grieve attacks?

From what I recall, the one in North Thanalan that's close to aggro mobs are regular lvl 50 ones. There's one unyield nodes just northwest from Ceruleum camp, but they are very far from anything that could aggro or even brought close before losing aggro.

The only unyield nodes that's close to those aggroes are east from Revenant Toll camps where Gigas roaming near those unyield cluster nodes. But even so, I haven't got any sort of grieve attacks there.

First, you seem to be missing the point, the DoL isn't the one aggressing the mob in these situations because they are using stealth.
Second, anywhere in the wild that is near water is susceptible to this, any unspoiled node (even the sheep near dragon head can break your node if someone feels like being a douche) but most commonly it happens on traveled routes between fates where level 45+ mobs get aggroed by the crowd as they pass by.

[BobbinT]

the DoL isn't the one aggressing the mob in these situations because they are using stealth.

errr.... at which point did I meant the one you said? Didn't you even read mine or OP post at all?

And 2nd, did you even gather often? I see you even have all lvl 50 DoLs, but your post seems like you doesn't gather things much.

As in area near Camp Dragonhead, there's darksteel ores, spruce logs, & astral rocks to name a few. And those are all located far from any type of aggro mobs. There are several docile mobs nearby or those that are below more than 10 levels than level 50 DoLs, so... unless there are super jerks that intentionally aggroes them for grieve attacks, I'd say it's unlikely.

I admit I couldn't said the same with fisher since they do prone to be vulnerable with this at certain areas.

Still, just report any those grieve attacks should you happen to be the victim of it.

[lackofwords]

What kind of cut scene? I am pretty sure ones that "load" a scene marks your character as "viewing cut scene" and thus cannot be interacted with.

I didn't bother to back up my twitch footage of getting interrupted on my ROG/NIN cutscenes as I'm sure I could replicate it.
I remember it was interrupted at the dodo nesting area (not my footage but for reference; http://youtu.be/V1nopYUA-x4?t=3m24s )
I should have wrote up the report, but I was more involved with leveling up ROG/NIN

Of course for the NPC talking ones, you'll also get interrupted.
(not my footage but for reference; http://youtu.be/u03okgT0qQg?t=6m24s )

But here's one I've submitted awhile ago;
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-Under-Attack
It's a full cutscene moment, (not my footage, but for reference; http://youtu.be/u03okgT0qQg?t=6m24s )

[Fynlar]

Seriously, where are these unyielded nodes that prones to grieve attacks?

The one that prompted this thread is the fragrant log node in South Shroud, which has kedtraps and the Conspiracy Theory FATE by it.

That, North Shards, and the Mor Dhona nodes have all been the biggest offenders for me.

Still, just report any those grieve attacks should you happen to be the victim of it.

Again... I know not everyone who's doing this is intentionally trying to be a griefer, even though it's very easy and possible for one to do so if so inclined. I don't want to have to report every little instance where this occurs, especially because I know that if I did I would mostly be whining about people who just made honest mistakes. But it's still irritating as all hell when it happens.

This is an issue where I feel like SE needs to step in and do something to prevent this sort of thing from happening in the first place.

[Felis]

I've been hit countless times by aoe from the sandworm fates in forgotten springs when going out to gather my daily map over there. Its kind of ridiculous having to start gathering with a blind status effect while having some enemy you didn't even touch aggro you.

That can only happen if you gather at the one spot near the entrace while the FATE is on. There are more spots behind the hill, where no FATE happen.

[BobbinT]

The one that prompted this thread is the fragrant log node in South Shroud, which has kedtraps and the Conspiracy Theory FATE by it.

Know the place, farmed sufficient log to get my forager axe, mob there also quite low level for a level 50 botany. If there's ppl doing those AOE intentionally using those mobs, then it is definitely grieve attack. That, unless the one who initiate it are players that's around same level range as the mob which I would give warning 1st. Still... I finished my fragrant log farming without any casualties.

[Cyrus-Wallace]

bleh

The one who didn't read was you. My reply after that. Thanks for not reading!

Thanks and I'm sorry for the mistake. You have rules for that, it's gameplay disruption, a thing that you can report to a GM if it's done on purpose, which is hard to determine. Even though your suggestion is nice, I don't know if they are going to implement it. Good luck with that.

[Fynlar]

Know the place, farmed sufficient log to get my forager axe, mob there also quite low level for a level 50 botany. If there's ppl doing those AOE intentionally using those mobs, then it is definitely grieve attack.

The people doing this are usually not level 50 (except for the North Shards location, where level 50s will still aggro the hapalits and level 50s actually have a reason to pass through the area because the Another Notch on the Torch FATE is one needed for animus books and probably hunts). Every time I've had this happen at this particular location it was a level 20ish dude (in lowbie gear; as in not an experienced level 50 dude who was just level synced down) who was likely unaware the kedtrap would even try to AoE them and therefore wasn't paying attention to other people standing in the potential range.

Again, my point still stands though, whether it's intentional griefing or not, I still believe it should be changed. It's way too easy for this sort of thing to occur.