Getting hit by others' enemy AoE while DoL gathering

[Alukah]

You're not understanding that in terms of balance it has to apply to Battles as well.

Please don't use the word balance when you don't have a slight clue of what it means.

Why on earth are you comparing DoL balance with DoM/DoW balance? And even misquoting Yoshida on it yet again (seriously changing dev words to spread misinformation should be bannable)

DoL and Battle balance have absolutely nothing to do with each other, DoL even gets a stealth skill that no battle class has other than Ninja.

This whole thread is about preventing griefing in case you missed it (and I'm sure you did).

[Tupsi]

DoL and Battle balance have absolutely nothing to do with each other

Your usual personal attacks aside - Before you tell someone else they don't understand something, you fail to realize unless it's relating to their specific venues, e.g what Nodes produces versus what battle content produces, they do have something in common.

Both can engage in combat (though you wouldn't want to as a DoL/DoH other than for kicks) which means it would indeed require a general battle system change, since it involves the battle system. I assume you don't do gathering, which means you probably missed the fact if a monster aggros you or you get hit by an AoE you immediately enter Battle. Meaning it's part of the battle system.

[Alukah]

Not everybody who disagrees with you is out there to attack you, Tupsi, you can say people attack you when you get called XI fanboy, but you like to throw that word everytime someone disagrees with you.

The balance of DoL and Battle classes are not the same, they are not balanced in the same way and I still don't get where are you getting that, not to mention a change like this wouldn't give DoL an unfair advantage over Battle classes, because DoL aren't meant to battle in the first place.

Getting interrupted by a mob you aggroed is perfectly okay, it's part of the punishment for gathering in a high level area without using the tool provided (stealth).

Getting griefed by someone dragging a mob to you while you're stealthed and losing the unspoiled node or mooch is not okay, it's not part of the DoL balance and thats why it's considered griefing.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Happened once? No big deal. Same person doing it to you multiple times? Report for harassment.

[TessaJalloh]

This thread sure got dramatic quickly.

[Shori]

Tbh, an argument could potentially be made for not allowing AoEs to hit any players who do not have any sort of aggro on the enemy using the AoE.

^ This
Its also an issue when you have multiple people doing the same quest where mobs spawn and suddenly 6 or 8 of them are doing AoEs instead of 2.
Or, altho this may have been fixed since the start of release when it was a huge issue, bringing people out of cutscenes or interactions for story and they have to go thru the whole action again.

[Fynlar]

Same way it's fair that monsters can knock you out of events/interactions due to being "under attack" - It's an intended part of the system. You can't control people harassing others because every time SE tries, people try to fight against the changes they make.

Difference is, when this happens you almost always can just immediately click and try it again.

Again, if this happens to you on an unspoiled/mooch, you have just lost a whole lot of time.

Happened once? No big deal. Same person doing it to you multiple times? Report for harassment.

With me, it hasn't actually been the same person doing it. It still happens extremely frequently, which is exactly why I made this thread. This is one of the biggest recurring issues for me that is getting me irked at other players, and like I said there is no reason for it to exist at all especially when it can potentially serve as such an easy means to grief other players.

[Its_Elodie]

I've been hit countless times by aoe from the sandworm fates in forgotten springs when going out to gather my daily map over there. Its kind of ridiculous having to start gathering with a blind status effect while having some enemy you didn't even touch aggro you. Its no fun either when you are trying to get one of those timed unspoiled nodes and someone is killing stuff or participating in a fate right on top of that same node. Unnecessary aggro while gathering is about as irritating as having a fate pop right where you are trying to gather something. Idc about harassment because there will always be in game trolls, but this shouldn't be able to happen in the first place. Aggro should just be for those who attack something as a battle class, not innocent gatherers just trying to gather something from a node. There should be immunity from it unless we decide to hit something or forget to use stealth when we need to.

[Felis]

I've been hit countless times by aoe from the sandworm fates in forgotten springs when going out to gather my daily map over there. Its kind of ridiculous having to start gathering with a blind status effect while having some enemy you didn't even touch aggro you.

That can only happen if you gather at the one spot near the entrace while the FATE is on. There are more spots behind the hill, where no FATE happen.

[Jynx]

Man I remember when in games you would murder people gathering and take their goods.

Now people get upset if you get hit by a monster AOE. I get that it can be used to harass people but does this actually happen often intentionally?