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    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    Fun fact: a good number of PhD graduates have a hard time doing basic math, since they spend so much time in the higher level math that their skills in the basics tend to degrade. Similar to the rest of us.
    Are you telling me, a math professor is incapable of checking if he has received the correct change when he buys a snickers bar at a 7/11?

    However, we don't lose class abilities. Summon 1 and Summon 2 operate exactly the same for a summoner as they do for an arcanist; they call forth a caster and tank pet respectively.
    Can I summon a carbuncle as an effective pet? No? Then I have lost an ability.

    By that thought, when I switch to Scholar, I should be able to summon 4 pets, right?
    IMHO SCH should have been it's own Class/Job. Tying it to ACN is weird. You pretty much dump all your ACN skills when you switch to SCH. Playing ACN teaches you next to nothing about how to play a SCH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    Yet NIN can use Mug ... >.>

    And have you forgotten that we are ACNs first before becoming SMNs? Somehow we have forgotten spells we have known since Lv 3 ...

    It's like getting a PhD in Mathematics then somehow forget how to add factions.

    No other Job loses base Class abilities but ACN.
    lol your actually a pretty successful troll i didn't even realize until now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlewiss View Post
    lol your actually a pretty successful troll i didn't even realize until now.
    To be blunt, I think I'm the one that is being trolled here.

    Most of the posts in this thread are from "regulars" who somehow have an opinion on everything, even when it doesn't affect them in anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    To be blunt, I think I'm the one that is being trolled here.

    Most of the posts in this thread are from "regulars" who somehow have an opinion on everything, even when it doesn't affect them in anyway.
    That is a rather bold statement considering for the Carbuncles to be viable they would need a potency increase, which would make tanking more difficult >50 when Arcanist or Summoner is involved.

    Also welcome to the internet, people here will often have a different opinion than you.
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    I'll throw my voice in with the "Let us summon Carbuncle as SMN, please!"

    There's really no reason to disallow it - if someone chooses the pet with 10 less potency because they think it looks cute and they aren't in the process of doing high end content, why not let them? Carbuncle is adorable and the Egis aren't nearly as popular it seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riepah View Post
    I'll throw my voice in with the "Let us summon Carbuncle as SMN, please!"

    There's really no reason to disallow it - if someone chooses the pet with 10 less potency because they think it looks cute and they aren't in the process of doing high end content, why not let them? Carbuncle is adorable and the Egis aren't nearly as popular it seems.
    This.

    That said, there is no reason for the Carbuncles to have 10 less potency. >.>

    PS:

    Not really sure why I'm even arguing with people about this. It has zero effect on gameplay. It's fairly easy to implemented. It doesn't affect them the slightest.

    The only reason I can see why they should not be given to SMN is if SE has some other plans for them - once they are given to SMN they can't just take it back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    It's fairly easy to implemented. It doesn't affect them the slightest.
    You have access to the assets and code of the game? Really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    You have access to the assets and code of the game? Really?
    Simple logic really.

    What kind of an idiot of a programmer would write the engine such that it's hard to change/add/remove spell abilities?

    You ever written a program in a modern language before?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    Simple logic really.

    What kind of an idiot of a programmer would write the engine such that it's hard to change/add/remove spell abilities?

    You ever written a program in a modern language before?
    Have you ever worked on any software project before?
    Just because something seems easy, doesn't mean it is, nor does it mean the developers should spend the time on it. Ever heard the term scope creep? You yourself said this will have no impact on gameplay. Why should they do it? Because a few forums posts?
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    Last edited by Delily; 11-29-2014 at 04:38 AM.

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    But ur not losing ur ability it seems that u improved them with Garuda and titan...instead of ruby carb and emerald carb

    And i think that when u become a summoner....ur a summoner. Ur an arcanist in the begginning but as u can see arcanist quest sotryline ends at lvl 30. Leaving Space to smn. So ur NO LONGER an arcanist but a smn. Think to the sch. Arcanist is dps and sch is healer....so a sch is still an arcanist?
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