Thanks for removing all fun in crafting.

[TheodoreMcIntyre]

If that's how you feel, then yeah. I know I certainly don't like to do things that I don't feel are worth it.

Honestly
The entire desynthesis system suffers from the same problems that the Atma drops had.
Granted, pre i70 it's not so bad.
It's easy enough to get tons of grade I and II demimateria because you can mass-craft and desynth that stuff.
But when it comes to getting these mastercraft demimateria, you get alot of people who have absolutely unrelenting bad luck with these drops. Then it turns into a giant and discouraging wall, and, frankly, if a game feels like it's going out of its way to make you feel like you've been walled off from content and actively discourages you, then that's just bad game design. On top of that, they keep adding more and more walls you have to scale to keep going on, so by the time you've got your Supras, now all of a sudden you have to get your Chanticlo Nexus to make any of the newer stuff. There could've been so many better ways to go about putting this stuff in, but they're so incredibly insistent on RNG that it's frankly ridiculous. If they're so adamant in keeping it like that, the very least they could do is make it easier to get this stuff as content goes on and on and on. You know, like they do with literally everything else in the game. But we've had these for like, what? Four months now? Probably soon to be five? And yet we have no indication of any plans to make it easier or reasonable, just that they're going to make a little less high-end recipes in the future.

[scarebearz]

the very least they could do is make it easier to get this stuff as content goes on and on and on. You know, like they do with literally everything else in the game.

They have already made it easier to obtain Supra's (FCIII's) and they have made past tiers of crafting far more accessable (1*/2*/3*).

High-end crafting is still a grind, but it should be, for now atleast.

[TheodoreMcIntyre]

They have already made it easier to obtain Supra's (FCIII's) and they have made past tiers of crafting far more accessable (1*/2*/3*).

High-end crafting is still a grind, but it should be, for now atleast.

Making it easier to get fieldcraft IIIs while not making it any more reasonable to get Mastercraft Demimateria (And then making it so you need even more of them thanks to all the new gear) is a pretty shoddy way to nerf something.

[Ellatrix]

I don't know how you can compare it to atma. You cannot bypass atma droprate by visiting the market board.

If you refuse to buy it off market, that's your problem. If you refuse to make gil for it, that's also your problem.

[TheodoreMcIntyre]

If you don't have the money to buy it then it's because you're lazy and absolutely nothing else also if you don't have the money to just buy it you don't deserve to advance in crafting

Pbbbbbbbbt

[Ellatrix]

It takes me about 10 minutes of crafting to make enough to get 1 matercraft (return on sales typically within 24hr). If you can't figure out how to make that amount in 1 hour with the multiple 3* you claim to have, yes you're lazy and the rut you're stuck in is entirely on you.

[Sibyll]

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I agree that the i70 off hand and Supra exist, more or less, only to do 4 star. However, the time/gil required to get to 4* compared to the much lacking market for crafted gear means there is little motivation to get to 4*.

You have an already niche market that is going to be even worse because fewer crafters will further inflate prices.

Also, I liked the idea that you have to start focusing on specific classes to go 4* rather than getting all 8 of them there. This would be all good if it weren't for the fact that the barrier keeping you from getting all your classes to 4* is surmounted by gil. The 50 HQ turn-ins for artisan tools was just done better.

Honestly if their goal is to keep people from being 8/8 4* I'd rather they just link the Mastercrafts to the class that obtained them (ex: Mastercraft (Blacksmith) is obtained by desynthing as a blacksmith and can only get the BSM supra) so that you'd have to advance the same crafts as your desynth, while also making Mastercrafts unsellabe/untradable so that people had to actually go through the grind themselves.

This is part of the problem with allowing everyone to level every craft while also insisting that crafted gear inferior to raid gear without sinking absurd amounts of gil/time into getting materia to meld them.

It takes me about 10 minutes of crafting to make enough to get 1 matercraft (return on sales typically within 24hr). If you can't figure out how to make that amount in 1 hour with the multiple 3* you claim to have, yes you're lazy and the rut you're stuck in is entirely on you.

So if everyone is buying MCDs off the board then no one would be getting them from desynth. Your logic makes no sense.

[aerolol]

Whoever designed demimateria to be used in recipes just because they added the desynthesizing feature should be removed off the team. RNG is crap to work with. I've stopped caring about the crafts because of this.

This so much.
I hope whomever came up with the Mastercraft demimateria idea gets fired and never again on his life gets another job.

[Ellatrix]

The time to capitalize on the 4* equipment market has come and gone, since the people who were going to buy it at high margins already have done so, and more crafters have also emerged. There's still 5? months left for it to be useful though and I expect 2.5 to bring new stuff for a short crafting boom again.

The barrier for 4* is also crafting the items for mastercraft book. The 50 HQ turn-ins is hit a 1&2 macro 50 times.

This so much.
I hope whomever came up with the Mastercraft demimateria idea gets fired and never again on his life gets another job.

So you wish ruin upon a person when his job was to design a grind to gate people to get about one craft per week up to 4* if they didn't throw gil at it? Ok.

Honestly if their goal is to keep people from being 8/8 4* I'd rather they just link the Mastercrafts to the class that obtained them (ex: Mastercraft (Blacksmith) is obtained by desynthing as a blacksmith and can only get the BSM supra) so that you'd have to advance the same crafts as your desynth, while also making Mastercrafts unsellabe/untradable so that people had to actually go through the grind themselves.

This is part of the problem with allowing everyone to level every craft while also insisting that crafted gear inferior to raid gear without sinking absurd amounts of gil/time into getting materia to meld them.



So if everyone is buying MCDs off the board then no one would be getting them from desynth. Your logic makes no sense.

So your solution to having people not buy stuff off the market as an optional exercise is to make it absolutely required if you want to craft multiple items (see: uses for Terminus Putty)? Also one of the cornerstone points of the game is the ability to do all classes on one character, and that completely contradicts that. So no, that will never happen and it's a horrible idea.

Also logic is fine. If the price on master demi went up to a point where it would take longer to earn the gil than it would be to make a batch of specs to desynth, then I would obviously go towards the desynth route and make them myself (then sell them too!).

[TheodoreMcIntyre]

I'm a super economist and if you can't make money like me then you're just a lazy bum

See, when you can take your quote and title it by Donald Trump, like so:

I'm a super economist and if you can't make money like me then you're just a lazy bum

I'm not really inclined to believe you.