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    Kinjirareta Shimo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    Doesn't add much to be honest. The cost of switching Egis is prohibitive (6 sec cast, 532 MP). You will just use one pet, you have select at the start, throughout a fight.
    I am not suggesting summoning multiple egis per fight all I was saying by different strategies was that leviathan egi for example could add a slow debuff to enemies or shiva could silence or something. It would just give the devs more to work with especially if elemental resistance's became more prevalent.
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    Eldon Pierce
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sangiin View Post
    I am not suggesting summoning multiple egis per fight all I was saying by different strategies was that leviathan egi for example could add a slow debuff to enemies or shiva could silence or something. It would just give the devs more to work with especially if elemental resistance's became more prevalent.
    Not suggesting multiple egis per fight either. Just pointing out that the strategy it added was limited to which Egi you start the fight with. During the fight, you can't adapt to changes.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sangiin View Post
    I am not suggesting summoning multiple egis per fight all I was saying by different strategies was that leviathan egi for example could add a slow debuff to enemies or shiva could silence or something. It would just give the devs more to work with especially if elemental resistance's became more prevalent.
    I have a feeling that Levi will be the debuff master of the egis, with Shiva being the AoE master (with a slightly lower damage output than Ifrit to avoid outclassing him and making him useless).
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    Zetsumei Tsunarashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    Doesn't add much to be honest. The cost of switching Egis is prohibitive (6 sec cast, 532 MP). You will just use one pet, you have select at the start, throughout a fight.
    Swiftcast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    Swiftcast.
    Cooldown.

    10 chars
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    Zetsumei Tsunarashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    Cooldown.

    10 chars
    So if even one of the other egis had an ability equal in utility to contagion, you wouldn't use a 1min cooldown to take advantage of it ?
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    So if even one of the other egis had an ability equal in utility to contagion, you wouldn't use a 1min cooldown to take advantage of it ?
    That would be good idea if pet summon do not cost mana, but its way too expensive. And i believe that new ability share cooldown with contagion if it is into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    So if even one of the other egis had an ability equal in utility to contagion, you wouldn't use a 1min cooldown to take advantage of it ?
    One min is a pretty long CD for "frequent use". You switch, then it's one min before you can switch back. In the meantime if your pet drops dead ...

    Also 532 MP. Ouch.

    The current design of our pets is not suited to switching nor reliving at frequent intervals.

    It's really an archaic design IMHO - a holdover from WoW. They want us to "take care" of our pets hence the heavy revival cost. But we are only given Sustain, a quick cast to avoid too much impact on our DPS, to do so.

    It feels a tad "contradictory". You want us to take care of the pet, but give us limited tools and don't want us to shift our attention too much from DPSing.

    IMHO it might be better to either make the pet invincible or make up keeping the pet a big part of the SMN "rotation" with a full toolkit to do so.
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    Last edited by Bishop81; 11-27-2014 at 08:02 PM.

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    Kololo Belbwadous
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    I also want more summoning power.
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    Juni Esura
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    once upon a time ifrit titan and garuda were the only primals
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