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    Quote Originally Posted by 314159265358979323846264338327 View Post
    SE please fix queue times. I can't handle waiting 26 seconds on DRG!

    And what were you Queued for? Trials doesnt exactly count. Expert, low level dungeons and High level queue times are what is suffering. Trials hasnt suffered because people still spam it for lights and those fights only take roughly 5 mins to complete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    This isnt a god damned job lol.
    Its a GAME, and yes. Queue times for DPS are insanely retarded, ...*SNIP**
    Dam post 1000 char limit. I got to snipped quote...

    This is where people fail in logic...

    Game design is in HOLY TRINITY look it up! The dungeons are HOLY TRINITY by LAW! Nothing can change that. You cannot ask for 8 DPS in 8 man, that just stupid.



    If you want 8 DPS in 8 man, might as well go play Guild War 2 where the is no HOLY TRINITY and GW2 dungeons are just utter garbage, dodge dodge key (not like moving off aoe, just really just stand and hit dodge key flip your character. Every class will have evasive ability.) What happened so? Every boss encounter just utterly stack in one spot... spam buttons. You call that fun? Utter boring as well.

    DPS queue are long is the NATURE of the game, and I have no problem with that. It's the community choice of class, everyone go DPS. No need heal or tank. What kind of game is that?

    THINK THINK!
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    Then what do you suggest should be done? Wait times are long because no one wants to play a healer and a tank and there's so few jobs of tanks and healers compared to the more ample number of jobs that DPS can use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Then what do you suggest should be done? Wait times are long because no one wants to play a healer and a tank and there's so few jobs of tanks and healers compared to the more ample number of jobs that DPS can use.
    They only way anyone could essentially force que times down is if they hired a crew of 30-40 (very conservative estimate) people per server to play as the needed roles and do nothing but dungeons the entire time they were "on the clock". Shy of doing that there is nothing that can be done. Increasing the number of tank/healer jobs will only help the lower levels for a couple weeks at best until all those hardcore zerg players that get the 50 in a couple days of release have had their fun and go back to business as usual.

    The only other thing that could be done would for players to stop being horrible to new tanks. It's great that the over geared player running the roulette is there to help slaughter things, but if the tank is new and that player is just looking for some quick tomes too often it leads to the tank quitting, finding a DPS class and never tanking again because they couldn't do anything right and got yelled at for sucking when really they just needed to have the mechanics explained and for the DPS to back off a little and let them get agro.

    Edit: the other possible way to solve que times in regards to story would be to give anyone who is considered first time in the dungeon priority over people running it for their second, third, 100th time.
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    I had to wait 15 minutes one day as a tank. I'm not joking either. It was for a one-off dungeon basically. One big reason I hate playing tanks is item levels and being over-geared for a dungeon. DPS tend to steal aggro a lot that way, Ninjas especially now, even after the buff to aggro on flash and circle of scorn, ninjas basically act like BLMs and DRGs did pre-buff.

    Also, I hate speed running. I never pull more than one group at a time. I threw out all my tank gear, and I won't ever touch tanking again.
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    Noone's punishing anybody for playing what you want to play. It's not Squeenix and it's certainly not other players. What we do have is a good old Supply and Demand effect.

    Just because you make fifty times more poop than other people doesn't mean there needs to be a demand for it.

    Am I doing this right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thistledown View Post
    Noone's punishing anybody for playing what you want to play. It's not Squeenix and it's certainly not other players. What we do have is a good old Supply and Demand effect.

    Just because you make fifty times more poop than other people doesn't mean there needs to be a demand for it.

    Am I doing this right?


    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    And what were you Queued for? Trials doesnt exactly count. Expert, low level dungeons and High level queue times are what is suffering. Trials hasnt suffered because people still spam it for lights and those fights only take roughly 5 mins to complete.
    I can only speak from personal experience and feelings with regards to why these queue times are so long...I don't need them nor enjoy them. I can imagine the same for others from when I talk to them. Although the expert queues aren't too long, even as DPS. They still give you the daily alexandrite so they have that going for them, which is nice. <Insert meme here>

    As for low level, unless someone is leveling, there's little to no point in going back there. If you want to go back for crafting mats, best thing to do is make a full party so you don't run the risk of losing them. The dodore wings for example in Aurum Vale. Not sure if they were added to encourage players to run that dungeon but making a full party cuts out the random players unfortunately because it's faster and easier. Other than that, they provide very few times and little financial gain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barboron View Post
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    Hell naw apples don't poop so your argument is invalid!!oneoneeleven!11!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thistledown View Post
    Hell naw apples don't poop so your argument is invalid!!oneoneeleven!11!
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    The queues werent horrible before the patch... but after Ninja came out.... well, What should have been done was not add yet another dps to the already long list without also bringing out new tank/healer jobs to help the process along. They probably should have held ninja until the expansion >.>; There is a reason why the trinity system exists in some games.
    Just my opinion of course, but Im pretty sure the queue would have suffered less if there were other interesting new jobs to help fill each of the DF roles.
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    Last edited by Vespar; 11-24-2014 at 05:44 PM.

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