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    Barboron's Avatar
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    Bar Boron
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post
    I'm sorry you have failed to understand other points of view on this topic, OP, but your post is quite childish.
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    1) yes the op's post is childish.


    Quote Originally Posted by LeCard View Post
    The number of people that want to play a tank/healer wont go up just because there are more tank/healer classes than DPS it would just mean more variety in tank/healer class. What would help the DPS wait time is releasing any new DPS with a set of tank and healer jobs as well. Thus giving those who want to play a new "fresh" class the chance to do so without throwing the lower level ratio completely out of whack.
    While others didn't see this point, you did! This is my point, you can't force others to play tanks, they even gave incentives. They even tried a different grouping for ST with 1 tank,2 healers, and 5 DPS per party.

    That did work quite well, but you can't apply this same logic to a dungeon without making the parties bigger. It's something they could plan for future dungeons but then at what point will a dungeon become a raid? And then having more mechanics meaning putting it back to 2 tanks and thus, solving no issue.
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    Friel Wyndor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barboron View Post
    Actually, SE are doing something about it or have you missed the news from the last two FanFests? Dark Knight will be a tank.
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    It doesn't matter on the ratio of jobs. The ratio of jobs doesn't reflect the number of players wanting to play those jobs.
    Quote Originally Posted by LeCard View Post
    The number of people that want to play a tank/healer wont go up just because there are more tank/healer classes than DPS it would just mean more variety in tank/healer class. What would help the DPS wait time is releasing any new DPS with a set of tank and healer jobs as well. Thus giving those who want to play a new "fresh" class the chance to do so without throwing the lower level ratio completely out of whack.
    Quote Originally Posted by Barboron View Post
    While others didn't see this point, you did! This is my point, you can't force others to play tanks, they even gave incentives. They even tried a different grouping for ST with 1 tank,2 healers, and 5 DPS per party.
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    Soube Miseux
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    I would play on my tanks more if it wasn't made practically impossible to gear more than one job per content patch.
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    Janhyua Yotsuyu
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    They should have release

    They should have release at lease not one by all 3 type of class instead of one.... When one not just DPS even if they just release healer Lololololol watch yourself waiting for 1 tank and 2 DPS for dungeon for 2 hours so yea 3.0 if they don't relase a new dps and healer along with dark knight.... The history will repeat it self.

    And also my main is tank not because the queue time is fast is because I get to control the battle field :3 I love to lead the party and I don't like to follow in party

    I do have a alt class which is my ninja I got it to 50 in 4 days because I followed the crowd in fate rather then dungeoning as for end game content as a dps I would alway drag my raid member in to tanking or healing for me cause I am their raid leader and their main tank and they do love tanking too just not their main so yea is a give and take don't relie on the duty finder too much
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    As a healer one time I had to wait over 10 whole minutes! True story.
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    Waekswys Styrmwyn
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    SE made a good change when they setup ST to be 1 tank in a full party of 8. They could improve this further by allowing parties of 5 (3 DPS) into lower level dungeons (they'd need to tweak difficulty to balance) Root problem is that the party structure doesn't reflect the demographic. FFXI's 6 person parties had some advantages. Could also just change party structure across the board from 4/8 to 5/10.
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    Last edited by Waeksyn; 11-24-2014 at 04:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waeksyn View Post
    SE made a good change when they setup ST to be 1 tank in a full party of 8. They could improve this further by allowing parties of 5 (3 DPS) into lower level dungeons (they'd need to tweak difficulty to balance) Root problem is that the party structure doesn't reflect the demographic. FFXI's 6 person parties had some advantages. Could also just change party structure across the board from 4/8 to 5/10.
    they would have to upscale this. people already have trouble finding 8 man groups
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    If you don't want to work hard, you get paid less
    If you don't want to play tank or healer, you get longer queues.
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    Leyna Crosse
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    If you don't want to work hard, you get paid less
    If you don't want to play tank or healer, you get longer queues.
    This isnt a god damned job lol.
    Its a GAME, and yes. Queue times for DPS are insanely retarded, and they've only gotten worse with Ninja since everyone wants to try the new hotness. (That or tanks and healers are getting bored of being tanks and healers)
    and before people tell DPS to shut up and play tank or healer, keep in mind a lot of us have, and are bored with it or its not the job we WANT to play :P No one should be punished just for playing a specific role. No matter how you slice it though, and as much as SE wants this game to be balanced, it isn't in regards to this issue.

    I can handle Queues of up to 20minutes but when its 30mins+ (often more) for EVERY run I try to do (Low, High and now even Expert roullettes are 30+ also) there obviously needs to be some adjustments. I feel sorry for new players coming into this mess since it must be very off-putting to have to wait to continue story-line dungeons for 30mins to an hour just because the Queue is so messed up right now.
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    Last edited by Vespar; 11-24-2014 at 02:38 PM.

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    Leviathan
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    SE please fix queue times. I can't handle waiting 26 seconds on DRG!

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